How do Chameleons change colors?

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The discussion revolves around how chameleons change colors, exploring the mechanisms behind this ability, the potential for human applications such as invisibility devices, and comparisons with other animals like octopuses and flounders. Participants also share personal anecdotes and humorous takes on the topic.

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  • Some participants inquire about the specific mechanisms that allow chameleons to change colors and whether they can perceive the colors behind them.
  • Others propose the idea of using chameleon-like technology for invisibility devices, suggesting that it could display background images to create the illusion of invisibility.
  • A participant humorously suggests using flounders for camouflage, claiming they are better at it than chameleons, and discusses the practicality of such an idea.
  • There is a claim that chameleons change color based on mood and environmental factors rather than solely on their surroundings, which raises questions about the accuracy of common beliefs regarding their color-changing abilities.
  • One participant describes the physiological mechanism of color change in chameleons, mentioning chromatophores and their role in color adaptation, while also comparing it to octopuses.
  • Another participant references military applications of camouflage technology, discussing developments in intelligent camouflaging using optical fibers and cameras.

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Participants express various viewpoints on how chameleons change colors, with some asserting that it is influenced by mood and others suggesting it is based on environmental background. The discussion includes humor and personal anecdotes, indicating a mix of serious inquiry and lighthearted banter, but no consensus is reached on the specifics of color change mechanisms or the feasibility of proposed invisibility technologies.

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Some claims about the mechanisms of color change in chameleons and comparisons with other species remain unresolved, with participants expressing differing opinions and interpretations of observations. The discussion also touches on speculative ideas regarding the application of biological principles to technology.

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How do they change colors?

or more specifically, how do they know what color(s) are behind them? How does their skin actually change to that color?

and also, can people sort of use this 'technology' of chameleons to create an invisibility device? (a device that displays what's behind it on a screen to make it look like you arent there)
 
Biology news on Phys.org
http://www.answers.com/chameleon

Go directly to the paragraph called 'Change of colour'.
 
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T@P said:
How do they change colors?
This post makes me very sad. It reminds me of my favourite pet, a chameleon. I loved her dearly, and then she exploded trying to hide in a box of crayons.
 
Very clever Danger, I love it.
 
Mk said:
Very clever Danger, I love it.
Any joke worth laughing at is worth stealing. I'm pretty sure that this came from Johnny Hart in the 'BC' comics, before he became a raving Jesus freak. I'm not about to admit that I couldn't come up with something as clever and apropos, but it took a lot less effort this way.

edit: This sort of conversation is why I spend most of my time in General Discussion. I try to maintain decorum and dignity out here in the real world, but it's a struggle.
 
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Thanks to T@P I have great idea how to become invisible . Do you guys know that flounders (flat fish living on bottom of ocean) is even more capable of comuflaging itself than chameleon ? ?
What you have to do is, you have to buy (they are v.cheap) dozens or so flounders and stick them to your jacket and presto !
But I guess live chameleons are the best solution.
 
stoned said:
Thanks to T@P I have great idea how to become invisible . Do you guys know that flounders (flat fish living on bottom of ocean) is even more capable of comuflaging itself than chameleon ? ?
What you have to do is, you have to buy (they are v.cheap) dozens or so flounders and stick them to your jacket and presto !
But I guess live chameleons are the best solution.
The flounder thing is excellent, as long as you're very good at holding your breath.
 
oh man that's a great idea! only ud stink from miles away...
we posted at the same time! oooh
 
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wait so a chameleon doesn't actually change its color based on what's its standing next to? only based on mood etc? hmm that's fishy
 
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in winter time you can do that with flounders, no problem. but you right guys, when gets hot outside you have to switch to chameleons.
 
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T@P said:
wait so a chameleon doesn't actually change its color based on what's its standing next to? only based on mood etc? hmm that's fishy
I haven't read the associated threads, but we did have a 'class chameleon' in public school. It definitely changed its colour to match it's surroundings as closely as possible. What I did notice is that it had only one overall colour, with some variety of shading. An octopus, on the other hand, can vary every square mm of its surface, and even put on shows such as rippling colour bands, or burst patterns, in an apparently conversational manner.
 
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As far as I know, US Army has been going after Intelligent Camouflaging since 2000 and are supposed to finish it by 2010. The uniforms are made up of optic fibres and high resolutions cameras and processors are used to capture the surrounding colors and replicate them at the end of the fibres.

Another combating technique which is supposed to be finished by 2010 is air ionisation virtual 3D screens(a la Total Recal Way)
 
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quark said:
As far as I know, US Army has been going after Intelligent Camouflaging since 2000 and are supposed to finish it by 2010. The uniforms are made up of optic fibres and high resolutions cameras and processors are used to capture the surrounding colors and replicate them at the end of the fibres.

Another combating technique which is supposed to be finished by 2010 is air ionisation virtual 3D screens(a la Total Recal Way)
Yet another display of idiocy in action. Great idea for an SF novel; ****ty idea for practical combat.
 
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hmmm. so anyone know more than the typical kindergarden view of how they work? I am guessing they do change based on their background. but see chameleons and octopi would be really cool if you could like take some of their dna, and instead of making dumb glow in the dark bunnies make color changing bunnies. or people. then you wouldn't have to wear clothing...
 
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The color changing ability of chameleons and octopi are accomplished by specialized pigment cells in the skin collectively called chromatophores. These cells contain pigments of different color that are actuated by surrounding muscle cells to expand or contract depending on the desired effect. http://www.chameleonnews.com/colormechanism.html to chameleon color change describes in greater detail the types of chromatophores and other aspects of this behavior. The mechanism is much the same in the octopus and indeed they in general appear better at it, this may be a factor of the number of chromatophores (some 2 million in an adult) and the added feature of being able to alter its skin texture as well. However, the picture in the link is very impressive for a chameleon.

As mentioned, mood, temperature and other factors can determine skin color in these animals as much as background. The chameleons (old world type with sticky projectile tongues) I owned were more likely to change when presented with food or a mirror than when placed against a different background.
 
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