Moment Curvature Plot: Explaining the Significance of the Slope

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the significance of the slope in a moment-curvature plot derived from experimental measurements of beam deflections under point loads. Participants explore the relationship between moment, curvature, and material properties in the context of bending theory.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes an experimental setup involving a simply supported beam with two point loads and measures deflections to calculate curvature.
  • The participant seeks clarification on the significance of the slope of the moment-curvature plot, comparing it to the elastic section of a stress-strain curve.
  • Another participant provides a derivation showing that the slope of the moment-curvature plot relates to the flexural rigidity of the beam, expressed as EI, where E is the elastic modulus and I is the second moment of area.
  • A later reply suggests that knowing the dimensions of the beam could allow for the separation of the elastic modulus and the second moment of area in the calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the interpretation of the slope's significance, as one participant expresses uncertainty while another provides a mathematical explanation. The discussion includes both exploratory reasoning and technical derivation without resolving all uncertainties.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not clarify the assumptions underlying the calculations or the specific conditions of the beam's material properties and geometry that may affect the results.

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Readers interested in structural engineering, material science, or experimental mechanics may find the discussion relevant, particularly those exploring the relationship between bending moments and beam deflections.

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Hi, I was really hoping someone could help me...

I have a beam, simply supported and I place 2 point loads on it (equidistant from either end). I measure a range of deflections (of the beam) using gauges as I increase the loads (always having the same load at each point). I measure these deflections at each point load and at the centre of the beam.

By using a BMD (or just by experience) we know that the moment will be constant inbetween the two point loads (i.e over the centre of the beam).

By knowing the difference in deflection between the point at the centre of the beam (max deflection) and the point under one of the loads, I can calculate the curvature of that constant moment section of the beam.

I can then plot the Moment verus the curvature (x-axis). I get a straight line.

Can someone explain to me in layman terms what I get? As in, what the slope of the graph represents?

I get a straight line for this plot. Looking at it, I think I'm looking at a similar thing to the elastic section of a stress strain curve, so I'm thinking that slope of the moment curvature plot is the elastic modulus of the beam. I'm unsure about this though.

Anyone able to explain? The significance of this slope?

Cheers in advance.
 
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Right, well I've figured it out.

So for those of you who care... its actually an extremely simple connection... the hours I spent completely unwarranted.

I in bending theory you find that

Curvature, or, 1/r = M/EI
where r is the radiius of curvature and M is the moment.

The slope of a moment vs curvature plot is M/(1/r)
Which is M * r

Since 1/r = M/EI then r = EI/M
therefore M*r = M * EI/M
which equals EI

which is the elastic modulus of the steel times the second moment of area.

Although I can't separate the two, EI give me the flexural rigidity of the beam which allows me to calculate strain.

So you see, this was one of those things that took me a lot more time than it was worth lol.
 
If you know the dimensions of the beam, you may well be able to separate the two
 
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Whoa. Thanks for digging this one up. Just a little over two years old now...
 

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