A new theory of Unification? [Archive]

Rafael Aparicio

May26-05, 02:12 PM

<jabberwocky><div class="vbmenu_control"><a href="jabberwocky:;" onClick="newWindow=window.open('','usenetCode','toolbar=no, location=no,scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,status=no ,width=650,height=400'); newWindow.document.write('<HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Usenet ASCII</TITLE></HEAD><BODY topmargin=0 leftmargin=0 BGCOLOR=#F1F1F1><table border=0 width=625><td bgcolor=midnightblue><font color=#F1F1F1>This Usenet message\'s original ASCII form: </font></td></tr><tr><td width=449><br><br><font face=courier><UL><PRE>Dear Friends,\n\nWe now that\'s a problem when we work in Quantum Mechanics with\nRelativity. It\'s like a paradoxal situation that one works only if the\ninfluences of the other is not near of it.\n\nWell, really not, because we have the Dirac\'s formulation, that\nunifies both two. But we feel like something doesn\'t work, like\nsomething was out of place.\n\nJust adjoint an english translation of a chapter of my thesis, about\nwhat I think that\'s the problem about QM an RT, using Fluid Mechanics.\n\nhttp://usuarios.lycos.es/Rufianin/schrodingere.pdf\n\n(Extract from "de la naturaleza de lo visible y lo invisible").\n\nCritics are wellcome. What do you think about this?\n\nIt\'s the first step of a work.\n\nR. Aparicio.\n\n</UL></PRE></font></td></tr></table></BODY><HTML>');"> <IMG SRC=/images/buttons/ip.gif BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER ALT="View this Usenet post in original ASCII form">  View this Usenet post in original ASCII form </a></div><P></jabberwocky>Dear Friends,

We now that's a problem when we work in Quantum Mechanics with
Relativity. It's like a paradoxal situation that one works only if the
influences of the other is not near of it.

Well, really not, because we have the Dirac's formulation, that
unifies both two. But we feel like something doesn't work, like
something was out of place.

Just adjoint an english translation of a chapter of my thesis, about
what I think that's the problem about QM an RT, using Fluid Mechanics.

http://usuarios.lycos.es/Rufianin/schrodingere.pdf

(Extract from "de la naturaleza de lo visible y lo invisible").

Critics are wellcome. What do you think about this?

It's the first step of a work.

R. Aparicio.

markwh04@yahoo.com

May28-05, 04:11 AM

<jabberwocky><div class="vbmenu_control"><a href="jabberwocky:;" onClick="newWindow=window.open('','usenetCode','toolbar=no, location=no,scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,status=no ,width=650,height=400'); newWindow.document.write('<HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Usenet ASCII</TITLE></HEAD><BODY topmargin=0 leftmargin=0 BGCOLOR=#F1F1F1><table border=0 width=625><td bgcolor=midnightblue><font color=#F1F1F1>This Usenet message\'s original ASCII form: </font></td></tr><tr><td width=449><br><br><font face=courier><UL><PRE>Rafael Aparicio wrote:\n> Just adjoint an english translation of a chapter of my thesis, about\n> what I think that\'s the problem about QM an RT, using Fluid Mechanics.\n>\n> http://usuarios.lycos.es/Rufianin/schrodingere.pdf\n\nPagina no encontrada.\n\n>From here, 1999 June 9:\nSubject: Quantum Particles are Fluids.\nTHEOREM:\nA particle satisfying the non-relativistic Schroedinger equation is\nequivalently characterized as a fluid with the following properties\n(1) It is irrotational\n(2) It occupies all space\n(3) It has finite total mass\n(4) It satisfies the Continuity Equation\n(5) It satisfies the Euler Equation\n(6) It has a non-isotropic [stress tensor] satisfying the\nEquation of State:\n/ h-bar \\ 2 / (del rho) (del rho) \\\nP = | ----- | | ------------------- - del^2 rho I |\n\\ 2m / \\ rho /\nwhere\nP = the pressure dyad\nm = the total mass of the fluid\nrho = the mass density of the fluid\ndel = the vector gradient operator\nDyadic notation was used above with\nI = the identity dyad\nu v = the linear operator which maps vector w |-> u (v.w)\n\nSimilar analyses can be carried out on the Pauli-Schroedinger equation\n(resulting in a rotational fluid), as well as on the various\nrelativistic equations (Klein-Gordon, Dirac-Kemmer) at the\nsemi-classical level.\n\nNote: the foregoing is only valid for *one particle* states. The\n"fluid" in general does NOT reside in ordinary space, but in\nCONFIGURATION space, which is generally unrelated to ordinary space!\nFor two particles, the fluid lives in 6-dimensional space.\n\nSo, the equating of a quantum system with a fluid in ordinary space is\na midnomer in the general case.\n\n</UL></PRE></font></td></tr></table></BODY><HTML>');"> <IMG SRC=/images/buttons/ip.gif BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER ALT="View this Usenet post in original ASCII form">  View this Usenet post in original ASCII form </a></div><P></jabberwocky>Rafael Aparicio wrote:
> Just adjoint an english translation of a chapter of my thesis, about
> what I think that's the problem about QM an RT, using Fluid Mechanics.
>
> http://usuarios.lycos.es/Rufianin/schrodingere.pdf

Pagina no encontrada.

>From here, 1999 June 9:
Subject: Quantum Particles are Fluids.
THEOREM:
A particle satisfying the non-relativistic Schroedinger equation is
equivalently characterized as a fluid with the following properties
(1) It is irrotational
(2) It occupies all space
(3) It has finite total mass
(4) It satisfies the Continuity Equation
(5) It satisfies the Euler Equation
(6) It has a non-isotropic [stress tensor] satisfying the
Equation of State:
/ h-bar \ 2 / (del \rho) (del \rho) \P = | ----- | | ------------------- - del^2 \rho I |
\ 2m / \ \rho /
where
P = the pressure dyad
m = the total mass of the fluid
\rho = the mass density of the fluid
del = the vector gradient operator
Dyadic notation was used above with
I = the identity dyad
u v = the linear operator which maps vector w |-> u (v.w)

Similar analyses can be carried out on the Pauli-Schroedinger equation
(resulting in a rotational fluid), as well as on the various
relativistic equations (Klein-Gordon, Dirac-Kemmer) at the
semi-classical level.

Note: the foregoing is only valid for *one particle* states. The
"fluid" in general does NOT reside in ordinary space, but in
CONFIGURATION space, which is generally unrelated to ordinary space!
For two particles, the fluid lives in 6-dimensional space.

So, the equating of a quantum system with a fluid in ordinary space is
a midnomer in the general case.

Cl.Massé

May28-05, 04:16 AM

<jabberwocky><div class="vbmenu_control"><a href="jabberwocky:;" onClick="newWindow=window.open('','usenetCode','toolbar=no, location=no,scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,status=no ,width=650,height=400'); newWindow.document.write('<HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Usenet ASCII</TITLE></HEAD><BODY topmargin=0 leftmargin=0 BGCOLOR=#F1F1F1><table border=0 width=625><td bgcolor=midnightblue><font color=#F1F1F1>This Usenet message\'s original ASCII form: </font></td></tr><tr><td width=449><br><br><font face=courier><UL><PRE>"Rafael Aparicio" <aparicio.rafael@gmail.com> a écrit dans le message de\nnews:9e33add0050524123912f1c1da@mail.gmail.com ...\n\n> Dear Friends,\n>\n> We now that\'s a problem when we work in Quantum Mechanics with\n> Relativity. It\'s like a paradoxal situation that one works only if the\n> influences of the other is not near of it.\n\nEven alone, QM doesn\'t work. It is perhaps where we have to see in the\nfirst time.\n\n--\n~~~~ clmasse on free F-country\nLiberty, Equality, Profitability.\n\n</UL></PRE></font></td></tr></table></BODY><HTML>');"> <IMG SRC=/images/buttons/ip.gif BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER ALT="View this Usenet post in original ASCII form">  View this Usenet post in original ASCII form </a></div><P></jabberwocky>"Rafael Aparicio" <aparicio.rafael@gmail.com> a écrit dans le message de
news:9e33add0050524123912f1c1da@mail.gmail.com...

> Dear Friends,
>
> We now that's a problem when we work in Quantum Mechanics with
> Relativity. It's like a paradoxal situation that one works only if the
> influences of the other is not near of it.

Even alone, QM doesn't work. It is perhaps where we have to see in the
first time.

--
~~~~ clmasse on free F-country
Liberty, Equality, Profitability.