Theory of Dormancy: Unifying the 4 Forces with GUT

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The discussion revolves around a proposed Grand Unified Theory (GUT) that attempts to unify the four fundamental forces: gravitational, weak nuclear, electromagnetic, and strong nuclear. The focus is on the interchangeability of gauge bosons and the implications of such transformations for understanding these forces. Theoretical and speculative aspects are explored, with references to magnetic monopoles and their role in quantum field theory (QFT).

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  • One participant proposes that all four forces must emerge from the same quanta or gauge boson, suggesting that gluons, photons, and W/Z bosons could interchange into each other.
  • The participant presents a mathematical framework for converting gluons into electromagnetic charges, with specific calculations for different types of gluons.
  • Another participant challenges the validity of personal theories in the forum, suggesting that new ideas should be submitted to peer-reviewed journals.
  • Some participants express interest in the concept of magnetic monopoles, noting their historical context in QFT and their relation to gauge theories.
  • A later reply elaborates on the concept of magnetic monopoles, referencing Dirac's work and discussing their implications in the context of local gauge breakdowns.

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There is no consensus on the validity of the proposed GUT. While some participants engage with the idea of magnetic monopoles, others express skepticism about personal theories being appropriate for the forum.

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The discussion includes speculative claims about gauge boson interchangeability and the mathematical relationships presented, which may depend on specific assumptions or definitions that are not fully articulated.

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Here is an example of a self-invented GUT (may be entirely wrong, you may correct it). If all 4 forces- gravitational, weak nuclear, electromagnetic, strong nuclear are to be unified, all of them must emerge from the same quanta or gauge boson which mediates all of them. Hence, what if we try to see whether the gauge bosons are themselves changeable into each other? So, a gluon, photon, W+, W-, Z must all change interchange into each other. Consider a gluon. It has R, B, G the 3 colors. (r, b, g are amounts of colors R, B, G respectively) I assume r= -b where r & b are the 2 magnitudes of red & blue color charge. Therefore, g= -(r+b). When a gluon changes into any particle of the electroweak matrix, the g forms 1 magnetic monopole; North if g= +1 & South if g= -1. Also the r & b form equal electric charge. Relative strength of electromagnetism to strong nuclear force is 1:137. So, consider these gluons-
R B G R B G
1 -1 0 -1 1 0
These are converted to- (all numbers henceforth are the amount charges produced if all colors were changed into electromagnetic charges)
137-(-137)+0=274 (b is negative)
Or -137-137+0=-274
This is for the 274-type gluon.
Now, consider these-
RBG R B G R B G R B G
01-1 0-11 1 0 -1 -1 0 1
We don’t consider g because of the 2 monopoles produced by different sets of gluons instantly cancel each other out. Converting b, r into electromagnetism, we get-
1. 0+(-137)-0=-137
2. 0-(-137)+0=137
3. 137+0-0=137
4. -137+0+0=-137
Thus we get the conversion of 137-type gluons. Now take a 137-type gluon & a 274-type gluon of the opposite sign. For ex-
-137 & +274
It gets converted to W+(80 e.v.), W-(80 e.v.), Z(90 e.v.), photons and a +137-type gluon. -137= -80-45-11 (a W- particle & negative half of a Z particle are formed)
+274= 80+45+11+137 (a W+ particle, positive half of a Z particle & a +137-type gluon are formed). The +11 & -11 cancel each other out to form photons. Thus a whole electroweak matrix and a 137-type gluon can be created by these gluons. 274-type gluons are created by motion of a quark. Since, all gauge bosons can interchange into each other, they can mediate all forces. Any corrections on this GUT? (I won’t mind being told its horrible)
 
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Magnetic monopole? That's a good effort!
 
James Jackson said:
Magnetic monopole? That's a good effort!
this concept is used in QFT and was first implemented by Dirac. Now, magnetic monopoles are looked at as those points in space where the local gauge breaks down or is not respected due to local singularities of the physical quantities at those points

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