How Much Energy Can a Custom Car Capacitor Store?

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The discussion revolves around the design of an energy storage system for a car using a custom multi-plate capacitor. The original poster seeks to calculate the energy storage capacity based on specific geometric parameters and material properties of the capacitor.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to determine the energy storage capacity of a capacitor with a defined geometry and material properties. Some participants provide equations related to capacitance and energy storage, while others question the relationship between breakdown factors and dielectric constants, as well as the configuration of the capacitors (parallel vs. series).

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Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the electrical breakdown of the insulating material and the configuration of the capacitors. Some guidance has been offered in the form of relevant equations, but there is no explicit consensus on the definitions or implications of certain terms.

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The discussion includes constraints such as the specific dimensions of the capacitor and the properties of the materials used, including the thickness of the insulating sheets and the breakdown factor. There is also uncertainty regarding the wiring configuration of the capacitors.

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I am supposed to design an energy storage system for a car, so I want to calculate how much energy can be stored in a capacitor whose geometry matches the car. As a baseline, we have an area 150 cm wide by 2500 cm long by 30 cm tall. The capacitor is a sandwich geometry , one layer of conductor, one layer of insulator, one layer of conductor etc. There are n+1 sheets of conductor and n sheets of insulator. The thickness of the insulating sheets is equal to the thickness of the conucting sheets, d. Paper is the insulating material. It has a minimum thickness d, 50 micrometers which is twice the thickness of paper. The conducting sheets alternate in voltage between +V and -V. I am trying to figure out how much energy can be stored in this capacitor if a factor of 2 for the electrical breakdown of the insulating sheets and adjusting the thickness d to maximize the energy stored. I also need to find the maximum voltage. I am not even sure where to start. Please help!
 
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Your multi-plate capacitor is equivalent to n 2-plate capacitors connected in parallel.

The capacity of each 2-plate capacitor is given by

C = e0 e A / d

where e0 is a constant (epsilon-0), e is the dielectric constant of the paper (assuming that it fills all the volume between the conducting plates), A is the area of the plate, d is the distance between 2 conducting plates.

The total capacity is nC (because the capacitors are connected in parallel).

The total charge stored in the system is:

Q = n C V

The energy stored is:

U = Q V / 2 = n C V^2 / 2

I don't understand the piece of information you gave about the breakdown. Please explain it better.
 
I believe the breakdown factor and dielectric constant are one in the same.

Why aren't the n parallel plate capacitors considered to be connected series?
 
Originally posted by discoverer02
Why aren't the n parallel plate capacitors considered to be connected series?

It depends on how they're wired. It also really doesn't matter. The energy density is the same.
 

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