Dehydration and Kidney Osmoregulation: Understanding the Response to Salty Foods

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The discussion centers on the physiological response of the kidneys to dehydration and the effects of consuming salty foods, particularly focusing on osmoregulation, blood pressure, and the roles of hormones like ADH, aldosterone, and renin. Participants explore the mechanisms involved in sodium and water balance in the body.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines a process where consuming salty foods leads to increased Na+ in the bloodstream, triggering ADH release and subsequent water reabsorption by the kidneys.
  • Another participant suggests that sodium regulation involves more than just the kidneys, noting that the body can maintain Na+ levels even with non-functioning kidneys.
  • A participant questions the difference between osmotic blood pressure and regular blood pressure, seeking clarification on how each is affected by salt and water levels.
  • Concerns are raised about the implications of high osmotic blood pressure, particularly regarding the relationship between water volume in the bloodstream and blood pressure.
  • Another participant proposes that high salt levels in the blood could draw water from surrounding tissues, potentially increasing blood volume and pressure.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between osmotic blood pressure, salt concentration, and blood pressure. There is no consensus on the mechanisms involved or the implications of high osmotic blood pressure.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the definitions and relationships between osmotic blood pressure and blood pressure, as well as the roles of various hormones in these processes. Some assumptions about physiological responses remain unaddressed.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those studying physiology, particularly in the context of kidney function, osmoregulation, and the effects of diet on bodily functions.

undertow
i'm going to show how the kidney responds to dehydration. I'm not sure if its right so please correct me of any errors.

Ok suppose u eat something salty like patato chips. The Na+ gets absorbed in the bloodstream causing the normal water concentration to go down. The lowering of the water concentration signals ADH which causes reabsorption of water from collecting tubule to the bloodstream. This reabsorpation then causes the water concentration the the bloodstream to go back up again.
 
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I think that more than just the kidneys are involved in sodium regulation - even with non-functioning kidneys your body seems to be able to keep Na+ at around 140 mmol/litre. Now potassium that's a different matter.
 
I would like to know what's the difference between osomitc blood presure and blood pressure? are they the same thing?

I would also like to know how the body reacts to each?

I read that if osmotic blood pressure is high that means too much salt is in the blood and not enough water. If this is true what is causing the high blood pressure in "HIGH osomotic blood pressure"? I don't understand this because if there isn't enough water in the bloodstream than veins wouldn't be lareger than normal size. Wouldnt they infact be samller in size?
 
aren't aldosterone and renin involved in salt retention and blood pressure?
 
They are but I'm concerned with how someone can have high osomtic blood pressure which means(i think) not having enough water and too much salt. Wouldnt not having enough enough water in your blood NOT cause presure. Or...Does high osmotic pressure refer to what will happen: that the blood with try to retain more water to dilute all the Na in it(that makes sense to me). But then again...all that has to happen to begin with to solve this problem is to inhibit aldolsterone which will stop Na reabsorption...
 
I think the idea is that having high salt in the blood will osmotically pull more water into the blood from surrounding tissues, therefore increasing the volume of blood, therefore raising the pressure of the blood...
 
Yea. Thats how it works. Thanks for your help
 

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