Positron in a magnetic field help

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a positron projected into a magnetic field. The problem requires finding the period, pitch, and radius of the helical path of the positron, given its energy and the magnetic field strength.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the relationship between charge, velocity, magnetic field, and centripetal acceleration. There is confusion regarding the need for velocity and mass to find the radius of the path, as these values are not provided. Some suggest using kinetic energy to find the velocity from the given energy of the positron.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants attempting to clarify the necessary equations and relationships. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of kinetic energy to derive velocity, but there is still uncertainty about the mass of the positron and how to proceed without complete information.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the mass of the positron is equivalent to the mass of an electron, but there is confusion about the specific values needed for calculations. The problem's constraints and the lack of certain information are acknowledged.

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some more basic homework help!

can you guys point me in the right direction, where to start? (grrr, so freakin lost in this class)

11. A 22.5-eV positron (positively charged electron) is projected into a uniform magnetic field B = 455[mu]T with its velocity vector making an angle of 65.5 degrees with B (vector). Find (a) the period (b) the pitch p, and (c) the radius r of the helical path.

ill try and scan the diagram too

grr

thanks

im "learning" magnetic fields for this chapter.

here is the scan of the problem, and a figure to go with it:

http://storage.whiteazn.com/phy181_pr11.jpg
 
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was reading the chapter..and they had a section on circulating charges ... it had an equation relating qvB to centripetal acceleration of:

qvB=m(v^2)/r

problem is, in the question, to find r, we have to know v, which isn't given ?? and also, don't know the mass ?

grrrrr

any help!1??!
 
Originally posted by JaeSun
was reading the chapter..and they had a section on circulating charges ... it had an equation relating qvB to centripetal acceleration of:

qvB=m(v^2)/r

problem is, in the question, to find r, we have to know v, which isn't given ?? and also, don't know the mass ?

grrrrr

any help!1??!

I think you can find v from the energy of the positron by using the kinetic energy formula, since E = 22.5 eV << the positron rest mass (0.5 MeV). The mass is equivalent to the electron mass.
 
ehh?

is the kinetic energy formula:

K=(1/2)mv^2 ?

and still lost on this part:

since E = 22.5 eV << the positron rest mass (0.5 MeV). The mass is equivalent to the electron mass.
 
Originally posted by JaeSun
ehh?

is the kinetic energy formula:

K=(1/2)mv^2 ?

and still lost on this part:

since E = 22.5 eV << the positron rest mass (0.5 MeV). The mass is equivalent to the electron mass.


Yeah, that should be the right formula.

A positron basically is just an electron with a positive charge, so they have the same mass.
 
so what's the mass? 22.5 ??
 

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