How Much Do We Know About Cell Complexity?

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The discussion revolves around the complexity of the simplest cells, focusing on the number of proteins and chemical reactions involved, as well as the current understanding of these biological processes. Participants explore the implications of proteomics and the roles of various biomolecules in cellular function.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant estimates that the simplest cell consists of around 5000 proteins and an equivalent number of chemical reactions, questioning the current understanding of these interactions.
  • Another participant suggests that only about 12% of the proteins in a cell have been identified based on human genome data, indicating a long road ahead in fully understanding cellular processes.
  • Concerns are raised about the timeline for identifying all proteins, with one participant suggesting it could take several hundred years at the current research pace.
  • Some participants argue that while many biomolecules are known, it seems unlikely that vastly different biomolecules exist beyond those already identified, such as amino acids and sugars.
  • It is noted that nucleic acids (DNA and RNA) also play significant roles in cellular functions, including enzymatic activity and gene regulation, complicating the understanding of cell complexity.
  • One participant highlights that the simplest organism has 536 predicted proteins but is an obligate symbiont, while non-obligate bacteria and archaea have between 1000 to 2000 predicted proteins, indicating variability in cellular complexity.
  • Examples of more complex bacteria, such as E. coli and Pseudomonas aeruginosa, are mentioned, which possess over 4000 proteins and exhibit a wider metabolic range.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the number of proteins in the simplest cells and the extent of current knowledge regarding cellular complexity. There is no consensus on the timeline for fully understanding these processes or the implications of proteomics.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the incomplete identification of proteins and the potential for undiscovered biomolecules, as well as the dependency on definitions of "simplest" organisms and their ecological niches.

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The simplest cell is made up of I think 5000 proteins and an equivalent number of chemical reactions all interlaced and interacting. It is very complex, exactly how much do we know at this point of all these reactions and how they interact ? Thanks for any information.
 
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One place to start your research on this question is a little light
reading of some books on biochemistry. :rolleyes:
 
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nameta9 said:
The simplest cell is made up of I think 5000 proteins

based upon human genome data, we have only identified around 12% of the proteins in the cell. we have only scratched the surface on understanding many biological processes.

at the current rate, it will be several hundred years before all of the proteins in the cell have experimentally been determined.

on the other hand, it seems unlikely that there would exist biomolecules vastly different than what we know of already (amino acids, sugars, etc.).

the promise of proteomics is to identify and characterize the entire proteome rapidly through the use of technology. only time will tell if this occurs.
 
To add more to the complexitiy of the "simplest" cell we must also take into account the fact that proteins are not the only biomolecules that contribute to the workings of the cell. Nucleic acids (DNA and RNA) have been shown to participate in enzymatic activity (ribozymes) as well as have roles in gene regulation.
 
nameta9 said:
The simplest cell is made up of I think 5000 proteins

The simplest organism has 536 predicted proteins.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=genomeprj&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=Overview&list_uids=9599

However, it is an obligate symbiont.

the simplest non-obligate bacteria and archea would have between 1000 to 2000 predicted proteins. These organisms have a restricted metabolism and narrow range of ecological niche.

In other hand, bacteria with more than 4000 (E. coli and Pseudomonas aeruginosa are good example) will have a more complex and wider array of metabolism. These also can occupy a wide range of ecological niche.
 

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