Charged Particles: Electric & Magnetic Fields in 3D Space

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the properties of electric and magnetic fields associated with charged particles, particularly in the context of their behavior in three-dimensional space. Participants explore the relationship between stationary and moving charges, the nature of electromagnetic waves, and the orientation of fields in these scenarios.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that every charged particle has both electric and magnetic fields, with the electric field strength decreasing as 1/r² in three-dimensional space.
  • It is noted that stationary charged particles produce an electric field but do not generate a magnetic field in their rest frame.
  • Others inquire about the orientation of the magnetic field relative to the electric field for a charged particle in motion, questioning whether their shapes resemble azimuthal quantum numbers.
  • Participants discuss that an accelerating charge creates changing electric fields, which in turn produce changing magnetic fields, leading to the generation of electromagnetic waves.
  • Some clarify that diagrams depicting electric and magnetic fields as perpendicular and oscillating represent electromagnetic waves, where the direction of wave propagation is perpendicular to both fields.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is some agreement on the properties of electric and magnetic fields related to stationary and moving charges, but questions remain regarding the specifics of field orientation and the implications of acceleration. The discussion does not reach a consensus on these points.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the exact orientation and shape of the fields in relation to quantum numbers, and the discussion does not resolve the implications of these relationships.

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Every charged particle has an electric and magnetic field yea?
Both the fields are in spherical 3D Space yea, where the strength of the fields fall off as 1/r^2? So in some diagrams found on the net why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular to each other and in an oscillating form?
 
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Cyclotron said:
Every charged particle has an electric and magnetic field yea?
Both the fields are in spherical 3D Space yea, where the strength of the fields fall off as 1/r^2? So in some diagrams found on the net why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular to each other and in an oscillating form?

That's an electromagnetic wave. For a stationary charged particle you'll have an electric field that falls off as 1/r^2. You need a moving charge to have a magnetic field so there's no magnetic field attached to a stationary charge in it's rest frame.
 
Ok that's solves a good part of what i was wondering thanks, but how is the magnetic field orientated compared to the E.field surrounding a charged particle traveling with a velocity v? Do both have a shape like the azimuthal quantum numbers or what?
 
A stationary charged particle has electricfield, a moving but non-accelerating particle will have a magnetic field. But an accelerating charge will have changing electric fields which results in changing magnetic fields , leading to birth of Electro-magnetic wave.

The diagrams you are talking about in which electric and magnetic fields are shown to be prependicular and in oscillating form , are basically the diagrams of EM Wave as i told you above.In EM Waves Electric fields and magnetic fields are prependicular to each other, and both of these help propagate the EMW, The direction of EM Wave being prependicular to both E and B.

BJ
 

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