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zoobyshoe

Jun5-04, 01:27 AM

That is what the news on TV said it was the next day. They had film of it. It had been visible for hundreds of miles in several states. They tracked it by radar into the Canadian wilderness where it disappeared from the screen, but there were no reports of anyone having seen it come down.

The term "luminous" wouldn't be the best for what I saw. It was clearly burning. It was a ball of something that was covered in flame, and all the flame was dragged back behind it and eventually petered out into a trail of smoke that marked its path all the way back to the horizon. The flame was quite conventional, yellow flame. The net effect was like what you might get if squashed 50-100 old tires into a ball, set them on fire, and flung them with a trebouchet, except, of course, this thing went so much farther.

Michaelpol

Jun22-04, 06:27 PM

I have been seeing things similar looking to a ufo but it looks more of a triangle with curved corners. This frightened me.Apparently it was seen near the moon. Dont tell me it was a satelite. because i know what a satellite looks like. This had sort of blueish red lights. They were slowly flashing. Then this object started glowing bright white then dissappeared. I went over to my friends house the next day and he saw it too. We were both frightened. Ever since then we have stayed indoors.

Ivan Seeking

Aug7-04, 09:42 PM

...Dazzling mid-air manoeuvres were a feature of some of the more dramatic otherworldly episodes.

At a military base in Beaverbank, N.S., last April, three people spotted several lights in the east, including a slow-moving red one bobbing up and down.

Suddenly, a second red light swooped in, prompting the first one to climb upwards and fly over it.

In a July incident, a Rosemont, Que., couple saw a very bright red light moving slowly westward. Travelling much too low to be an airplane or helicopter, the object plunged to the ground and disappeared after about a minute.

Two people sitting on a hill in an Edmonton park on June 23 watched four distinct lights hover above them.

“At first they thought it was some sort of satellite,” Mr. Rutkowski said.

“But then the lights gathered together, close in the sky, and spread out again. They would travel in one direction for a while and then curve back in a very sharp turn in another direction. And they watched it for 90 minutes.”

The Prairies seem to be a hotbed of unexplained activity.[continued]

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20040805.gtufos0805/BNStory/Technology/?query=ufo

Ivan Seeking

Sep1-04, 11:22 PM

I haven't had time to view the video since I need to download QT player again.

...Jim Dufek and Fred Jones of Southeast Missouri State University's communications department aren't sure what the disc was either, but they are sure that the tape is legitimate.

"Whatever it is, it's real," Jones said, watching the tape in the university's video room.

"There's nothing digital on it," Dufek said. "I don't see any pixel breakup around the subject. There's no superimposing."

One effect Dufek said would not be hard to doctor is the flare of light that abruptly appears on the underside of the shape toward the end of the tape. The light quickly flickers and fades as the shape continues its holding pattern. But Dufek said it doesn't appear doctored on this tape. [continued]

http://www.semissourian.com/story.html$rec=145099

username

Sep2-04, 01:41 PM

The Jackson UFO mystery is over. It can all be chalked up to a vacation Bible school game gone awry.

Turns out this has now been explained, a toy mylar disc filled with helium.

http://www.semissourian.com/story.html$rec=145099

Ivan Seeking

Sep2-04, 02:44 PM

Thanks for the update username.

Monique

Sep2-04, 04:38 PM

I saw a UFO today at the beach today :eek: but I think it was just a bat that reflected light.

Ivan Seeking

Sep3-04, 10:19 PM

I saw a UFO today at the beach today :eek: but I think it was just a bat that reflected light.

So, should we log your UFO as an IFB? :biggrin:

I assume that you saw a light flickering from time to time in one area of the sky?

Monique

Sep4-04, 08:19 AM

IFB, illuminated flying bat? :tongue2:

actually at first I thought it was a shooting star: it moved across the sky really fast in a straight line and it was very bright, so I pointed and said "hey! a sh--- huh? that's not a shooting star" it started moving in zigzagging directions and then it disappeared at the horizon.

Actually a classic UFO tale: it moved really quick and there was no way an airplane could make such turns, but it was illuminated all the time. So I guessed it must not have been very high in the sky, although it seemed that way, a bat could've caught the light of the beach-bar that was further down.. I did theorize that maybe it ate too many fireflies.. but we don't have any fireflies at this part of the continent :wink:

Ivan Seeking

Sep10-04, 12:43 AM

Maybe your bats are radioactive :biggrin:

Do you have any other guesses as to what you may have seen: Maybe a satellite re-entering and tumbling out of control, or a meteor breaking up...? Did it leave a trail of any sort? It only appeared as a point of light with no discernable detail? What color was the light?

Ivan Seeking

Oct1-04, 06:20 PM

MARSHFIELD - So it's unidentified, and it flies, and it's an object - that simply means it's inexplicable, not that it's a UFO filled with little green women.

In the past two weeks, Marshfield-area residents have reported unusual lights and objects in the night sky, some accompanied by what looked like fighter jets. [continued]

http://www.wisinfo.com/dailytribune/wrdtlocal/285017318523278.shtml

Ivan Seeking

Oct2-04, 08:21 PM

SPACE scientist claims to have come across an unidentified flying object (UFO) during a scientific expedition in Himachal Pradesh.

..."We saw a bright white object moving towards our camp at about 7 am. It moved down the hilltop, towards the bottom. Eight persons from our party moved towards it but the object kept moving towards us. Then some porters made a noise and it started retreating in the same direction without turning around. After a while it turned and started to move towards the hilltop," said Kulkarni on his return from Manali. [continued]

http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/5922_1038857,0015002000000000.htm

Ivan Seeking

Oct3-04, 01:57 AM

You know...that is a really strange story; even as UFO stories go. Not too often do I see reasonably credible claims of objects that seemingly interact with multiple observers over a period of time. I like the white, to black, to white business as well. If this could have been just trick of the light, I would think this person would recognize the possiblity, at least; strange. I will follow up with the pictures if they become available.

For anyone who wants to track the story after the link is lost:
Dr Anil V. Kulkarni of ISRO's Space Application Centre saw the object on the morning of September 27 while leading the expedition in the Samudra Tapu glacier region near Chandratal, about 14,000 feet above sea level. Other members of the team also witnessed the unusual object.

The sighting has been reported to authorities in Kullu-Manali and New Delhi and the Ahmedabad space centre is analysing the photographs.

Reported in the Hindustan Times; Sunday October 3rd, 2004

Ivan Seeking

Oct3-04, 05:08 PM

...Peter Davenport [director of the National UFO Reporting Center] holds degrees in Russian and biology from Stanford University in California and master’s degrees in finance, international business and in the genetics and biochemistry of fish. Originally from St. Louis, he highlighted details of his life Saturday and multiple UFO sightings in the southwestern United States and detailed the popular Arizona lights sightings of 1997. [continued]

http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=13058432&BRD=1719&PAG=461&dept_id=25271&rfi=6

Ivan Seeking

Oct6-04, 03:53 PM

Here are more links to the India story above.

http://news.google.com/news?ie=utf8&oe=utf8&persist=1&num=30&hl=en&client=google&ncl=http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php%3Fnewsid%3D36925

Ivan Seeking

Oct9-04, 07:51 PM

...revealed it was a schoolboy prank.

In February 1954 a picture resembling a UFO floating over Coniston, taken by 14-year-old Stephen Darbishire, from Torver, caused a national sensation. [continued]

http://www.nwemail.co.uk/news/viewarticle.aspx?id=143262

Ivan Seeking

Oct30-04, 03:35 PM

In prehistoric times, if you happened to see something inexplicable in the sky, the best way to share the experience would have been to scratch its likeness on the walls of your cave. Fast forward to the year 2004, where the Internet and a rampant mass media rule the roost, and it seems that every weirdo, crackpot, cultist and conspiracy theorist is sharing their, or somebody else's, UFO sighting with the world.

But for American David Ritchie, head of a project team that produced "The World Internet UFO Directory," the phenomenon of UFOs runs deeper than simply being the exclusive domain of "X-Files" Fox Mulder-types who want to believe.

"The UFO phenomenon is not the providence of extremists and fringe people," he said. "A lot of well-respected researchers and theorists work on this phenomenon." [continued]
http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2004/10/30/200410300034.asp

danielg

Oct31-04, 02:10 PM

SPACE scientist claims to have come across an unidentified flying object (UFO) during a scientific expedition in Himachal Pradesh.

..."We saw a bright white object moving towards our camp at about 7 am. It moved down the hilltop, towards the bottom. Eight persons from our party moved towards it but the object kept moving towards us. Then some porters made a noise and it started retreating in the same direction without turning around. After a while it turned and started to move towards the hilltop," said Kulkarni on his return from Manali. [continued]

photo (http://www.telegraphindia.com/1041011/asp/knowhow/story_3833729.asp)

link about Himachal Pradesh (http://www.ibiblio.org/himachal/geography.html)

Ivan Seeking

Nov19-04, 01:04 AM

THE BLUES BROTHERS star DAN AYKROYD has been appointed a Hollywood consultant for a Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) network.

The Canadian actor is now the man film-makers go to when they're making movies on alien spacecraft, after he was given his position by the MUTUAL UFO NETWORK (MUFON). [continued]
http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/aykroyd%20becomes%20ufo%20consultant

Ivan Seeking

Nov19-04, 01:10 AM

[b]Mighty close encounter?[b]
Bright light dogs Crane River man
By BOB HOLLIDAY, STAFF REPORTER

Terry McDonald thought his eyes were playing tricks last week when he saw a bright light following his truck. "The light was behind me. It was so bright, I thought my dome light was shorting out," said McDonald from his home in Crane River, about 320 km northwest of Winnipeg.

LOST POWER

McDonald did start to worry when his truck intermittently lost power over the course of about a kilometre. [continued]
http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/WinnipegSun/News/2004/11/13/712255.html

Ivan Seeking

Nov19-04, 01:13 AM

Residents report UFO in Ridgecrest
By Jessica Tamturk/jtamturk@ridgecrestca.com
Wednesday, November 10, 2004 4:20 PM PST

A bright circular-shaped flying object was seen soaring over the skies of the Indian Wells Valley late Saturday evening, startling at least five eyewitnesses.

At around 10:45 p.m., as each of three friends was returning home from a shared community event, a large object allegedly moving along the west side of the Valley caught their attention.

"It was neither a plane or a rocket," said long-time Ridgecrest resident Bonnie Mathis Tuesday evening. "It was very bright, and diffused colors within the object could be detected upon closer examination. Whatever it was, it scared the crap out of me." [continued]
http://www.ridgecrestca.com/articles/2004/11/10/news/top_story/top01.txt

Ivan Seeking

Nov19-04, 01:19 AM

...UFO presence around Shantiniketan is not new. But the number of UFOs now are so high that villagers are experiencing them every day. Yound children are reporting seeing aliens. [continued]
http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/11-08g-04.asp

****** Note that several posts [above] were made today ********

Ivan Seeking

Nov19-04, 04:05 PM

GIROUXVILLE - A loud humming noise breaks the silence of night, causing Ron Cloutier's dogs to bark crazily, and announces the arrival of Unidentified Flying Objects in the Girouxville skyline.

The skin-tingling X-Files-like scene has haunted Cloutier over the last five months, as he is awakened to watch strange lights and shapes cutting through the darkness above his home. [continued]
http://www.dailyheraldtribune.com/Z10_00bUFOs1119.lasso

Ivan Seeking

Nov27-04, 12:43 AM

... According to the villagers these strange triangular objects are visiting since last five years and their numbers are increasing. They are silent, they can move through the air extremely slowly, so slowly that any conventional aircraft would stall and crash. They can suddenly vanish at tremendous speed, far faster allegedly than any known machine built by man could ever possibly move. They are translucent; their flying beacons don’t project light as would a normal earth-made stream of light would do, and so on [continued]
http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/11-25g-04.asp

Ivan Seeking

Nov29-04, 07:57 PM

Local UFO sightings still remain mystery
Sunday, November 28, 2004 12:11 PM PST
By Laura Dobbins/ldobbins@ridgecrestca.com

Several military aircraft from the Air Force and Marines were testing in China Lake airspace two weeks ago when some people reported unidentified flying objects but Navy authorities insist none of the testing occurred during the time of the UFO sightings [continued]

http://www.ridgecrestca.com/articles/2004/11/29/news/local/news01.txt

From the story posted above: California UFO, 11/18/04

Ivan Seeking

Dec5-04, 02:00 PM

December 06, 2004
EVEN the sceptics are questioning the origins of a strange light that hovered over Darwin on Saturday night.

Several readers phoned the Northern Territory News late on Saturday night to describe the unidentified flying object that captured their attention.

But neither the RAAF or the airport were able to shed any light on the flashing green, blue and red lights witnesses saw.

Laboratory technician Julie Lynn was relaxing on the balcony with husband Nigel at their Leanyer home when they noticed the UFO about 8.30pm.

A self-described sceptic, Mrs Lynn believes there is a perfectly reasonable explanation for why the UFO hovered above Darwin - she just has no idea what it could be. [continued]
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,11599504%5E421,00.html

Ivan Seeking

Dec6-04, 12:03 AM

The appearance of hovering, flashing lights in the Australian sky last night has residents Down Under wondering what could have been the source. [continued with links to other stories]
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41782

Ivan Seeking

Dec8-04, 11:55 PM

...It was about midnight, and everything went silent. The police cruiser turned off, and his radio was no longer connected to the switchboard. Meloro got out of his vehicle, shielded his eyes and stared up at the "blinding light.''

"I saw something strange. I have never seen anything like it before,'' Meloro said. "I'm not saying it was a UFO, well, it was an unidentified foreign object, but I'm not saying it was aliens from another planet.''

Meloro said the light lingered about 100 feet above the trees for about 15 to 20 seconds and then it was gone, his vehicle turned back on and within minutes the radios were up and running. [continued]
http://www.tribune-chronicle.com/news/story/125202004_new05officer05.asp

Ivan Seeking

Dec9-04, 12:08 AM

...The people are led by a man named James Gilliland who owns a retreat at the base of the mountain and has spent years capturing his encounters on video. [continued]
http://www.katu.com/team2/story.asp?ID=73105

I have corresponded with Mr. Gilliland and told him that I would be glad to come up and collect evidence for review. After all, he's right in the neighborhood. From these discussions I have a long standing invitation to "the ranch" which for some reason never seems to happen, in fact.

The last that I heard is that he is also selling Magic Water of some kind in Eugene.

I think there may be occasional phenomena in the Mt. Addams area since the light legends go back several centuries. I don't think the chanting really matters much. :biggrin:

polyb

Dec9-04, 06:56 PM

LUV that UFO stuff! :tongue2: :tongue2: :tongue2:

Keep it coming IVAN. And let us all know when there is something that is beyond a reasonable doubt that UFO's are real. Until then I will be ordering my tin foil beanie for protection.:biggrin: :biggrin:

Ivan Seeking

Dec9-04, 09:40 PM

You may want to check the Napster. There are a few events declared by US intelligence to be credible.

polyb

Dec10-04, 05:56 PM

I have been going through it a little but it still does not "prove" beyond a resonable doubt that UFOs are real. There is a lot of circumstantial evidence but until there is that "proof" it is always regulated to the wacky corner. I consider that unfortunate because there is phenomena that merits some attention and investigation regardless.

I have not really concluded anything either way because I have no way to objectivily conclude. Though if I were an alien, I certainly would keep my distance from this planet of warlike apes, we're dangerous monkeys!

Keep up the good work, I still dig the whole thing!

Ivan Seeking

Dec10-04, 06:15 PM

Thanks. Just one comment: I don't necessarily agree with any particular explanation for what I post. In spite of the impassioned beliefs of many, I work under the assumption that ET is not here. I try to keep it all about the facts and not about the interpretation of those facts. I'll leave the interpreations up to you. :smile:

After learning about all of this and trying to make sense of it all for the last 20 years or so, I honestly don't know what to think except that there is a mystery; probably several. I don't think that it can all be dismissed as nonsense.

polyb

Dec10-04, 07:53 PM

Good to see you're not off your rocker!

Ivan Seeking

Dec10-04, 08:18 PM

well...I don't know if we want to open that can of worms. :biggrin:

Ivan Seeking

Dec24-04, 03:50 PM

25 December 2004

Police report it has been a busy night across New Zealand.

Shortly after midnight they received several calls about a fast-moving object travelling erratically from one house to another. [continued]

http://home.nzcity.co.nz/news/default.asp?id=46158&c=w

Ivan Seeking

Dec27-04, 08:06 PM

Cops baffled after sighting UFO
Circular object changes shapes, colors while hovering over church
Posted: January 7, 2004
5:00 p.m. Eastern
© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

Three police officers in Huntington, Ind., claim to have seen an Unidentified Flying Object the day after Christmas hovering over a Catholic church, and UFO investigators now are looking into the incident.

Officer Chip Olinger was warming up his car Dec. 26 about 2:30 p.m [continued]
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36499

Ivan Seeking

Dec28-04, 03:23 PM

A brief comment here: Over the years it seems that I have noticed a disproportionately large number of reports like this, seemingly credible, that involve UFOs hovering over churches. If we assume that these UFOs are not the Holy Spirit, or God, then perhaps the high steeples play some role?

Ivan Seeking

Jan9-05, 10:51 PM

Ivan Seeking

Jan17-05, 11:12 PM

Does science make room for aliens?
Researchers argue that new theories better the odds
Now scientists note that recent astrophysical discoveries suggest we should find ourselves in the midst of one or more extraterrestrial civilizations. Moreover, they argue it is a mistake to reject all UFO reports because some evidence for the theoretically predicted extraterrestrial visitors might just be found there.

The researchers make their proposal in the January/February 2005 issue of the Journal of the British Interplanetary Society. [continued]
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6826412/
http://www.space.com/searchforlife/et_betterodds_050114.html

'Dog' days of January
Folks who spend time outdoors during an early January evening often notice a brilliantly sparkling "diamond" in the southeastern sky - one that appears to shimmer, dance and dramatically change colors.

I've had people ask if it was a UFO, experimental aircraft, fireworks or even the International Space Station - even though it doesn't move. What people are seeing is the brilliant Sirius, the "Dog Star." [continued]
http://www.newsday.com/news/health/ny-hssky154116010jan15,0,3773375.story?coll=ny-health-headlines

Seemingly an ongoing saga... Normally I would ignore this but there have been a large number of similar reports from all over the world; ever since about mid December, it seems. Not a theory, but I do find the timing interesting -the 9.0 subduction zone event [earthquake]. So many of these meteor-like reports is also rather unusual. Of course, it could all mean nothing.

JAKARTA, INDONESIA - An unidentified flying object was seen hurtling toward earth Sunday morning close to Jakarta, witnesses told a local radio station[continued]
http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2004/12/18/ufo-indonesia041218.html

"I saw a huge ball of fire in the air," farmhouse caretaker told the Mumbai Mid Day. "It raced down to the Earth so fast that before I could do anything, my house shook and all my utensils came crashing down."

More than half a dozen villages near the towns of Khopoli, Uran and Panvel felt the impact. Locals were said to run out of their homes and remain outside for fear of them collapsing. [continued]
http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/article_15061.shtml
http://www.dailybulletin.com/Stories/0,1413,203~21481~2639483,00.html

This just in! It was aliens
Military has `reason' for that boom, but we know better

Unexplained events, such as the loud noise heard in half of Horry County last week, that shook homes and had entire neighborhoods looking skyward, always open the door for all sorts of theories. Some thought it was a plane crash or a bomb or an earthquake. Some saw five blinking lights; others saw two large fireballs. My 3-year-old said the clouds were talking too loud. Others took the opportunity to make snide jokes about UFOs. But I won't. [continued]
http://www.charlotte.com/mld/observer/news/local/states/south_carolina/counties/york/10452277.htm
http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/myrtlebeachonline/news/local/10428436.htm

UFO rattles China province
December 15, 2004 10:54 IST

Hundreds of people in northwest China's Gansu Province witnessed an unidentified flying object (UFO), and local police are searching for what may have dropped in the area, reports Xinhua [continued]
http://www.rediff.com/news/2004/dec/15china.htm

Ivan Seeking

Jan30-05, 01:27 AM

...the objects parted, with one going west and changing shape as it went. The objects, with one then looking body shaped, were watched by the three men for one hour and 40 minutes. A radar station at the base also picked up the objects in the same position before they vanished. Checks were made to RAF West Drayton to see if it had spotted them. Flt Lt Wood is described as “reliable and sober” in the report, which adds that radar staff at RAF Staxton Wold also picked up the strange objects. The RAF Boulmer report was deemed so sensitive that instead of being released to the public 25 years later as normal a further three-year ban was imposed. It is only because of the FOI Act, which came into force on January 1 [continued]
http://www.northumberlandtoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=1117&ArticleID=930633

Ivan Seeking

Jan31-05, 12:45 AM

Colorado Springs, CO (PRWEB) January 28, 2005 -- After decades of seeking possible answers about a mysterious UFO-like design on a 17th century French copper coin, a prominent numismatic expert says it remains just that: an unidentified flying object. After a half-century of research, the design has defied positive identification by the numismatic community.

"It was made in the 1680s in France and the design on one side certainly looks like it could be a flying saucer in the clouds over the countryside," said Kenneth E. Bressett of Colorado Springs, Colorado, a former President of the 32,000-member American Numismatic Association and owner of the curious coin. [continued]
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2005/1/prwebxml202359.php

Ivan Seeking

Feb2-05, 09:50 PM

Details of Britain's most recent UFO sightings are revealed in previously secret documents disclosed to The Independent .

The files, released under the Freedom of Information Act, show that, last year, the Ministry of Defence's UFO unit received 88 reports from military staff and members of the public worried about unexplained objects in our skies.

The classified files help to complete a picture of the scale of UFO sightings first revealed by this paper last month. These updated "X-files" show the most recent observations were made on 15 January this year following two separate reports from Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, and Whitstable, Kent. The reports refer to "strange lights seen in the sky". [continued]
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/story.jsp?story=607253

Ivan Seeking

Mar2-05, 10:22 PM

With Canadians reporting a record number of UFO sightings last year — 30 per cent more than in 2003 — it's natural to wonder why... Most UFOs turn out to be satellites, meteors, airplanes, or have some other conventional cause.

But (cue theme music for The Twilight Zone) about 15 per cent of last year's sightings remain unexplained. [continued]
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1109113847492&call_pageid=970599119419

Ivan Seeking

Mar9-05, 06:29 PM

"A black triangular object that made a number of movements and then speared off out of sight behind the trees."

That's how police have described footage claimed to be of an unidentified flying object (UFO) that was reported to police, and shot on a video camera, by a Dubbo family last Sunday night.

"I've never seen anything like it," Suzanne Fuller said.

"It was hovering there for five hours, and it was completely silent."

The police arrived to the scene at 8pm, viewed the videotape, and filed an official report to Air Services Australia (ASA), a federal airways monitoring bureau. [continued]
http://dubbo.yourguide.com.au/detail.asp?class=news&subclass=local&category=general%20news&story_id=377437&y=2005&m=3

Ivan Seeking

Mar10-05, 12:47 AM

Is this really a picture of a UFO over Stirling? A flying saucer-shaped trick of the light being shot by video phones?

By George Mair

THE dramatic rise in the number of flying saucers reported over Scotland is caused by... video phones. [continued]
http://www.sundaymail.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=15209399&method=full&siteid=86024&headline=phone-home-name_page.html

PIT2

Mar10-05, 02:41 AM

http://dubbo.yourguide.com.au/detail.asp?class=news&subclass=local&category=general%20news&story_id=377437&y=2005&m=3

It seems the article has been removed.

This was the full story, i found it on another forum (it also had a dead link)

UFO captured on film hovering high in city sky

By LINTON BESSER - The Daily Liberal

Thursday, 10 March 2005

DUBBO, Australia - "A black triangular object that made a number of movements and then speared off out of sight behind the trees."

That's how police have described footage claimed to be of an unidentified flying object (UFO) that was reported to police, and shot on a video camera, by a Dubbo family last Sunday night.

"I've never seen anything like it," Suzanne Fuller said.

"It was hovering there for five hours, and it was completely silent."

The police arrived to the scene at 8pm, viewed the videotape, and filed an official report to Air Services Australia (ASA), a federal airways monitoring bureau.

"It looked like a bird, but much larger, the size of a car, with a flat top and a deeper shape at the bottom."

Mrs Fuller also put a call into the UFO Researchers Independent Network, and described what they had seen to Moira McGhee.

Edit by Ivan

Heres a link to the full story:

http://www.ufoalert.com/cgi-bin/freeit.cgi?read=70509

Ivan Seeking

Mar10-05, 02:00 PM

Thanks Pit2. If you have the link handy could you post it? I had to delete part of your post due to copyright concerns. We can only post excerpts of published materials.

PIT2

Mar11-05, 10:34 AM

I put the link in my previous post.

But it seems the UFO has been identified:

http://dubbo.yourguide.com.au/detail.asp?class=news&subclass=local&category=general%20news&story_id=377880&y=2005&m=3

A father, son and their 'UFO'
LINTON BESSER
Friday, 11 March 2005

It was independence day for Dubbo, and Paul Cremin didn't even know.

It wasn't until his friends showed him the photograph in yesterday's Daily Liberal of an unidentified flying object that he realised he had spooked all of the city.

"My neighbour came over laughing with the newspaper," he said, blushing.

Mr Cremin and his 13-year-old son Aidan fly kites and model aeroplanes as a hobby.

matthyaouw

Mar14-05, 05:24 AM

I have been avoiding this source since, although this paper seems to be otherwise reasonably reputable, they are reporting all sorts of wild UFO stories and conspiracy stuff. Since the hits keep coming and coming I decided to post one story. Unless they have broken the story of the millennium, I won't be posting any more reports from this source.

All reports mentioned come from this ongoing saga. :wink:
China and India both know about underground UFO base in the Himalayan border area deep into the tectonic plates
http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/01-09a-05.asp

Right. if the thickness of the tectonic plates in unstable areas of mountain building, the presence of unmined granite and a no-go area along a disputed border (shock-horror!) is the best evidence they can find to suggest an underground base of some kind, frankly they need to get their acts together before they write an article.

Ivan Seeking

Mar14-05, 03:51 PM

I put the link in my previous post.

But it seems the UFO has been identified:

http://dubbo.yourguide.com.au/detail.asp?class=news&subclass=local&category=general%20news&story_id=377880&y=2005&m=3

Sure enough, it just came up on my RADAR as well. Just another one of the 90-95% of sightings that can be explained.
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43278

Ivan Seeking

Apr15-05, 05:40 PM

For some reason, aliens seem to have an interest in the nuclear weapons of the United States.

So says Robert Hastings, an independent expert on unidentified flying objects who will be speaking at Northern State University next week. His 90-minute presentation will begin at 9 p.m. Monday in Room 127 of the Johnson Fine Arts Center.

Hastings said the declassified documents and on-the-record comments he will share will prove to those willing to listen that UFOs do exist. Most of the documents and comments come from former federal government and military officials.

After a 30-minute video, Hastings will lecture for an hour. [continued]
http://www.aberdeennews.com/mld/aberdeennews/news/11401586.htm

Ivan Seeking

Apr24-05, 05:33 AM

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The truth is out there: A UFO sighting is reported in Huntsville, Chattanooga and much of northeastern Alabama and southeastern Tennessee. The Huntsville Mercury-Banner reports "a strange airship" passing directly over Huntsville at 4:15 on the afternoon of Jan. 12, 1910. The newspaper says the airship moved over the crest of Chapman Mountain "before many people on the streets had the opportunity of seeing it." The airship moved at a speed that "appeared to be greater than any wind short of a hurricane would travel," the newspaper says.
http://www.al.com/news/huntsvilletimes/index.ssf?/base/news/1114334889292320.xml

Ivan Seeking

Apr24-05, 05:25 PM

South Bend Tribune

UFO tales unite the curious
Rochester sightings recalled a year ago at state investigators' session
ROCHESTER -- It's been a year since Bev Carpenter saw her first UFO hovering over her rural Fulton County farm, and she says her life hasn't changed all that much despite the fact that she's appeared on several national radio programs.

Still, she was among the couple dozen people who gathered in Rochester Saturday for the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) to learn more about the phenomena, and to share encounters with the unexplained. [continued]
http://www.southbendtribune.com/stories/2005/04/24/local.20050424-sbt-MARS-A1-UFO_tales_unite_the.sto

Ivan Seeking

May28-05, 05:51 PM

prompted a secret Ministry of Defence investigation, newly-released information has revealed.

The clamour around the possibility of "little green men" visiting Pembrokeshire forced Government officials to look into the situation in the late 1970s.

There were numerous tabloid reports, including one of an entire class of schoolchildren claiming to have seen a UFO landing.

Many others reported being petrified by a strange silver alien.

It all happened in what became known as the Broad Haven Triangle. [continued]
http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0200wales/tm_objectid=15567309&method=full&siteid=50082&headline=ufo-sightings-sparked-x-files-style-secret-mod-investigation-name_page.html

Ivan Seeking

Jun7-05, 12:46 AM

I had never even heard of this one.

DEER LODGE — Stories in this dusty cow town come a dime a dozen, hardly a surprise given its hold on the old prison, the new state prison, its historic cattle ranch, and its fabled car museum. But here, 50 miles southwest of Helena, stories of a different sort have become the talk of the town — stories exposed by a former Deer Lodge resident and her new docudrama, "The Secret of Redgate."

"We went back to Deer Lodge for two weeks and found out there were a lot of people with this experience, all the way from young high-school kids to people in their 80s," Cowen said. "No one ever talked about this stuff growing up."

Throughout the Deer Lodge Valley, stories of close encounters aren't hard to come by. Over the last 20 years, Cowen said, there have been hundreds of sightings within a 150-mile radius of the town. [continued]
http://www.helenair.com/articles/2005/04/14/top/a01041405_01.txt

Ivan Seeking

Jun7-05, 01:45 AM

Also, an interesting account.

Strange happenings all around us
By Pat López/For The Daily Times
Apr 2, 2005, 08:37 pm

...“He told me that it was true, but not to tell anybody. It happened a long time ago, in the early 1930s, when he was still a young man. They didn’t have power lines in Trujillo back then and the horse wasn’t Chíspas. And he didn’t just see a blue light”

“What else did he see?” I asked, trying hard not to lean towards the steering wheel to look up at the stars in the sky.

For a while, it was quiet again.

I wondered if she would tell me more or start talking about something else. I could feel her hesitation; it felt heavy, like the weight of old memories best forgotten.

After a few miles, she turned towards me... [continued]
http://www.daily-times.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi?archive=50&num=17740

Ivan Seeking

Aug12-05, 05:27 PM

Links will be posted later when time allows, but over the last week or two I have seen at least four or five reports of Canadian, US, and British UFO groups closing shop due to a lack of reported activity.

Ivan Seeking

Aug18-05, 11:21 PM

WASHINGTON -- "Rumors about the saucer mystery fly almost as fast as the strange sights themselves," pronounced the narrator of a 1952 Paramount newsreel, commenting on a rash of UFO sightings from New York to Washington.

He added ominously: "With this evidence, the mystery thickens."

And so it seemed.

A comic book narrative of the time came down on the side of believers. "SAUCERS OVER WASHINGTON, D.C.," blared its bold black headline. It dismissed the military's "glib" explanation of radar blips seen that July by National Airport flight controllers. Simply a case of temperature inversion or reflections of ground objects, insisted the Air Force brass. But what about the pilot, the cartoonist countered, who described "a bright light moving faster, at times, than a shooting star"?

Well, what about it? [continued]
http://www.newhousenews.com/archive/Rios081705.html

Note that the entire USAF history includes first, project Sign, which concluded that the ET Hypothesis may be correct. This conclusion was rejected by General Vandenberg who demanded absolute proof of such an earth shaking revelation. Then came project Grudge, and finally, Bluebook. The chief scientists for Bluebook, Dr. Allen Hynek - the originator the famous swamp gas UFO explanations - became the father of modern Ufology and rejected the conclusions referenced in the linked article [which resulted from the summary of the controversial Condon Report].

Ivan Seeking

Sep11-05, 06:51 PM

...organizers are making much of his credentials as a former defence minister in the Pearson administration 40 years ago...

Hellyer was once a political star. He was first elected to the Commons in 1949 at the age of 25, at that time the youngest person ever to win a seat.

He went on to become a cabinet minister, ran for the Liberal leadership against Pierre Trudeau, switched parties to the Conservatives and ran for that party's leadership, too. He eventually founded two other political parties, Action Canada in 1971 and the Canadian Action party in 1997.

He says his conviction that UFOs are real arose from reading in recent years, not from anything gleaned from secret archives during his time in office.

"I've been a skeptic for quite a while but I've been exposed to more and more information recently and have just decided to take a stand," he said. [continued]
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2005/09/11/1212477-cp.html

Interestingly, some of the biggest UFO conspiracy theorists were once high ranking officials for either intelligence and or the military.

Ivan Seeking

Nov16-05, 12:22 PM

DOZENS of UFOs that the Ministry of Defence cannot explain have been sighted in Wales in the past three years, the release of confidential papers has revealed.

The MoD confirmed that a green, circular object seen hovering in one position over Mumbles in January 2002 was classed as a UFO.
And another bright object seen hovering over West Swansea in January of this year is also being put down as a UFO.

However, Julie Monk of the Ministry of Defence's Directorate of Air Staff made it clear a UFO classification simply meant no rational explanation for a sighting could be found, not that it was extra-terrestrial in origin.

MoD figures show 28 reports of UFO sightings in Wales in the past three years cannot be explained. [continued]
http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0200wales/tm_objectid=16375250&method=full&siteid=50082&headline=they-re-out-there-----dozens-of-ufos-reported-over-wales-name_page.html

Ivan Seeking

Dec1-05, 04:47 PM

SEVERAL people reported seeing a UFO in Shanghai between 4:30pm and 9pm yesterday.

A man named Hu told the Xinmin Evening News he saw the UFO in the sky near the Outer Ring Road in Xinzhuan area at 4:30pm. It was visible for about 5 minutes, Hu said.

A man named Luo said he saw a bright oval object flying west towards Jiuting Town at 5pm when he was near Qibao Town. He tried to take a picture of it with his digital camera, but failed.

A man named Yang said he saw the UFO near...[continued]
http://www.shanghaidaily.com/art/2005/12/01/220742/UFO_reported_over_Shanghai.htm

Ivan Seeking

Dec7-05, 02:16 AM

Alien encounters and UFO sightings, along with a fascination for outer space, are alive and strong in Asia, according to survey results released by global market research company Synovate.

Synovate director Scott Lee said the recent successful Chinese space mission inspired the firm to explore Asian perceptions of space, resulting in some out of this world findings on people‘s attitudes, space travel desires and extraterrestrial experiences.

The survey covered 5,500 respondents in China, Hong Kong, India, Indonesia and Korea.

“Asians are clearly convinced that we are not alone in our universe, with more than six out of 10 people (64 percent) surveyed across all countries believing that intelligent life exists on planets other than earth,“ Lee said.

“Personal extraterrestrial experiences are also far more common than expected with 10 percent of Asians believing that they have seen a UFO and a further three percent believing that they have had an encounter with aliens from another planet.

“When applied across the enormous populations of the countries surveyed, that is over 250 million UFO sightings and more than 80 million alien encounters,“ added Lee.[continued]
http://www.asianpacificpost.com/news/article/950.html

Ivan Seeking

Dec15-05, 02:06 PM

UFO sighting claim - watch the video! Dec 15 2005

By The Huddersfield Daily Examiner

A CROSLAND Moor woman has captured images of a strange object in the skies above Huddersfield.

Now she is hoping someone can identify the object, which she saw on Monday afternoon.

Teresa Millward, 28, of Crosland Moor, said: "It was very strange and slow-moving. It was shaped a bit like a triangle. [continued]
http://ichuddersfield.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100localnews/tm_objectid=16488092&method=full&siteid=50060&headline=ufo-sighting-claim-name_page.html

The video wouldn't play for me. Maybe later...

Ivan Seeking

Feb21-06, 04:11 PM

Scroll down to

UFOs spotted in Middle Tenn.

More >>
http://www.wsmv.com/Global/category.asp?C=13814

They are also pushing the UFO Bible connection in the piece. Most if not all fundamentalists with whom I've had the opportunity to bring this up, either believe in UFOs, or easily could. They see them as part of the demonic forces at work in the world and as a part of the end times. It really threw me at first; didn't expect that one.

Ivan Seeking

May31-06, 11:48 PM

Sightings From the Unknown
posted May 31st, 2006

A community just north of Meadow Lake is claiming to have watched some UFO's for the last couple of months. One scientist [Barb Campbell, from Maidstone] who made the trip up there to see for herself...

People in Waterhen Lake have been watching since April 4th. Discs and bright lights in the sky above the water. [continued]
http://www.ckom.com/index.php?p=localnews&action=view_story&id=3500

Ivan Seeking

Jun4-06, 05:02 PM

...Continued

...Barbara Campbell, who is a UFO researcher based out of Maidstone, heard wind of the sightings, and travelled to Waterhen to investigate this past week.

She said after doing her preliminary research, that a large number of people in the area - 75% in fact - say that they saw something out of the ordinary in the sky at night.

“I will have to do some more indepth research into this, but at this point, it seems very credible,” she said.

“Video footage was actually obtained as well, and there were five to seven objects captured on film.” [continued]
http://www.meadowlakeprogress.com/story.php?id=234143

Ivan Seeking

Oct19-06, 10:59 PM

Lights in sky over Tinley Park [Chicago] have UFO believers looking up
The sightings of three red, silent, slow-moving lights in the sky over Tinley Park and Oak Park were first reported on Aug. 21, 2004, with subsequent sightings on Oct. 31, 2004, and Oct. 1, 2005. The National UFO Reporting Center was flooded with calls on each of those nights, with dozens of such reports at www.ufocenter.com.

...There are numerous pieces of footage shot by area residents at the same time in different locations, which gives researchers much more data to work with than the usual isolated UFO sighting.

"I absolutely love mass sightings," Maranto said, "because you have such a cross section of (witnesses)." [continued]
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=local&id=4672066

Has ZapperZ been playing games? :biggrin:

Ivan Seeking

Nov3-06, 12:56 AM

Search UFO on this page
http://www.foia.cia.gov/

Then, see the report labeled:
POLICE OFFICERS SPOT UFO; RAPID REACTION FORCE ALERTED
Created: 6/26/1996

Two police officers reported ~ a one-half hour long encounter with a large, pulsating, expanding and contracting sphere that made "electronic crackle" sounds and that would move away when approached. Special forces responded, and civil defense authorites were called in to study the event.

Ivan Seeking

Dec29-06, 08:50 PM

PARIS (Reuters) - The French space agency is to publish its archive of UFO sightings and other phenomena online, but will keep the names of those who reported them off the site to protect them from pestering by space fanatics.

Jacques Arnould, an official at the National Space Studies Center (CNES), said the French database of around 1,600 incidents would go live in late January or mid-February.

He said the CNES had been collecting statements and documents for almost 30 years to archive and study them. [continued]
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=internetNews&storyID=2006-12-29T141534Z_01_L29796180_RTRUKOC_0_US-FRANCE-UFO.xml

Ivan Seeking

Jan1-07, 03:22 PM

...A flying saucerlike object hovered low over O'Hare International Airport for several minutes before bolting through thick clouds with such intense energy that it left an eerie hole in overcast skies, said some United Airlines employees who observed the phenomenon.

...All the witnesses said the object was dark gray and well defined in the overcast skies. They said the craft, estimated by different accounts to be 6 feet to 24 feet in diameter, did not display any lights.

Some said it looked like a rotating Frisbee, while others said it did not appear to be spinning. All agreed the object made no noise and it was at a fixed position in the sky, just below the 1,900-foot cloud deck, until shooting off into the clouds [continued]
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-0701010141jan01,1,3957154.column?coll=chi-news-hed&ctrack=1&cset=true

DaveC426913

Jan1-07, 06:49 PM

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-0701010141jan01,1,3957154.column?coll=chi-news-hed&ctrack=1&cset=true

If only there were some way that they could - I don't know - show us what they saw - maybe a sketch of it, or a rubbing, or maybe strategically arranged dust bunnies on the floor! If only there were some way that even one of all those witnesses could have ... I don't know ... recorded ... some sort of ... impression ... of what they saw.

I know. Crazy talk.

Alas, sketching and dust bunnies take longer than the "several minutes" the event lasted. Maybe someday technology will advance to the point where we could share with others the things we've seen.

Someday...

Ivan Seeking

Jan1-07, 06:54 PM

DaveC426913

Jan2-07, 11:31 AM

Have you read the napster? There are plenty of events that are well documented - many by the military.

If I show you picture of a flying saucer, and I can show you many, would you be convinced that it is real? Of course not.

Edit: Here you go.
http://www.ufocasebook.com/bestufopictures.html
Now we can all rest knowing that you're convinced. :biggrin:

You're jumping to conclusions.

For starters "...plenty of events that are well documented - many by the military..." is a straw man. I am talking about this event, and no other. I don't understand why, with all those witnesses, for an event that lasted "several minutes", they could find no one who had a camera.

Don't generalize. I am not claiming anything about general UFO skepticism, I am only questioning this account.

Granted, I have not followed up with other articles. I would have thought that, if there were pictures associated with this new report, the Chicago Tribune would wish to publish them. I would also assume that, if someone were going to link to an article about it, they'd link to a good article, one that did have the pics.

Greg Bernhardt

Jan2-07, 12:47 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070101/ap_on_re_us/o_hare_ufo_sighting

apparently dozens saw this... anyone?

russ_watters

Jan2-07, 03:21 PM

If I show you picture of a flying saucer, and I can show you many, would you be convinced that it is real? Of course not.

Now we can all rest knowing that you're convinced. :biggrin: 70,000 people at Fatima saw the Sun dance in the sky. I don't believe that it really did - do you?

Ivan Seeking

Jan2-07, 04:15 PM

You're jumping to conclusions.

For starters "...plenty of events that are well documented - many by the military..." is a straw man. I am talking about this event, and no other. I don't understand why, with all those witnesses, for an event that lasted "several minutes", they could find no one who had a camera.

I know. Crazy talk

This makes your statement more general than you admit.

Don't generalize. I am not claiming anything about general UFO skepticism, I am only questioning this account.

That wasn't suggested by the quote above. It sounded more like the typical attack by someone who has never studied the subject.

Granted, I have not followed up with other articles. I would have thought that, if there were pictures associated with this new report, the Chicago Tribune would wish to publish them. I would also assume that, if someone were going to link to an article about it, they'd link to a good article, one that did have the pics.

We can only provided what is provided. Also, perhaps people involved in the operations of commercial aircraft couldn't run to their locker for a camera? Perhaps someone did try to video the event but it was too dark? Also, recently a comment by Integral caught my attention: He has trouble getting pics of his dogs in action and they live in his house!

Ivan Seeking

Jan2-07, 04:19 PM

70,000 people at Fatima saw the Sun dance in the sky. I don't believe that it really did - do you?

What does this have to do with photographs of alleged UFOs?

Ivan Seeking

Jan2-07, 04:21 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070101/ap_on_re_us/o_hare_ufo_sighting

apparently dozens saw this... anyone?

Yes, this is shaping up to be an interesting story due to the number of witnesses. It may be more interesting to see what the MUFON investigation yields. I can't tell yet if the weather phenomenon theory is consistent with the reports, but on the face of things its doesn't sound like it. Note also that simply saying that it was a "weather phenomenon" is not really a theory or an explanation. For starters, what phenomenon?

DaveC426913

Jan3-07, 11:11 AM

It sounded more like the typical attack by someone who has never studied the subject.
I'll take that as an admission that you jumped to that conclusion. :tongue2:

nesp

Jan4-07, 10:06 AM

My guess is that it was a wingtip vortex from a landing plane. Those vortices can meander around, remain stationary for a while, then dissipate. If they pick up dust or moisuture they can appear solid.

Ivan Seeking

Jan4-07, 07:31 PM

...Peter Davenport, the UFO center's director, says the buzz over the O'Hare sighting is fully justified.

"In my opinion, because I know the quality of the witnesses, and because I know the nature of the documents that were generated, it is one of the most dramatic cases of the year 2006 that this center has handled," Davenport told me today from the center's headquarters in Washington state.

On the other side, NBC News space analyst James Oberg - a longtime UFO skeptic - says the evidence that's come to light so far isn't all that compelling.

"It's just sad that we keep getting these reports which are of zero evidential value," he told me. "It's sad because there's a lot of strange stuff in the air that we do need to know." [continued]
http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/01/02/25212.aspx

Ivan Seeking

Jan17-07, 04:06 PM

On the surface of it, UFOs could lurk

For nearly 60 years, rumors have circulated of strange flying objects emerging from the ocean off our coast and disappearing in a fantastic flash of speed and light.

Sailors, fishermen, dockworkers, police officers, coastal residents and others have reported eerie otherworldly ships emerging from and submerging into local waters.

UFOs, it seems, have established an underwater base somewhere in the deep, dark recesses between the Channel Islands and the coastline between Long Beach and Santa Barbara.

Despite a tendency to scoff at such conspiracies, I decided to do a little investigating. You know, just to be sure. [continued]
http://www.presstelegram.com/business/ci_5028150

I had to laugh when I read this. As so often happens, a skeptic takes a real look at the subject for the first time, and their world is shaken a bit.

Ivan Seeking

Jan20-07, 04:03 PM

There have been many reports of UFO activity over Iran this week. The initial reports were of a nuclear explosion and were suggestive of a meteor to me, so I didn't make much of it at first, but now there are reports of a second and third event. Here are some of the recent hits.

Witnesses have claimed to have watched an unidentified flying object hovering at a low altitude for more than an hour over Bouyer Ahmad, Iran.

The glowing object was spotted two days after a similar object, described as having a yellow ray and a red centre, was sighted at the same time of day, the Fars News Agency reported. These sightings are following a reported UFO crash January 10 in the Barrez Mounts, Iran.

Deputy Governor-General Abulghassem Nasrollahi of Kerman province said police and other authorities were investigating and that the crash could not have been an airplane or helicopter because all aircraft flying in the area on that day had been accounted for. [continued]
http://www.enjoyfrance.com/content/view/723/31/

UFO spotted over Iran
BOUYER AHMAD, Iran, Jan. 19 (UPI) -- Witnesses reported seeing an unidentified flying object hovering for more than an hour over Bouyer Ahmad, Iran. [continued]
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20070119-075023-4159r

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3354296,00.html
http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=8510280150

January 11, 2007
Report: Nuclear Explosion in Iran (UPDATE: 3 explosions)
A major explosion is being reported in the Iranian desert. It said to be a nuclear explosion. In the general area of one of Iran's nuclear testing sitees.

The alternative theory is that a UFO crashed. That is what one Iranian blogger is reporting, anyway. Anti-Mullah:

Reports emanating [continued]
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/186028.php

Ivan Seeking

Feb3-07, 01:32 AM

DOZENS of mysterious lights were spotted hovering in the sky above Archway - spreading panic among residents below.

Unidentified flying orange objects stopped traffic and left residents staring skyward in disbelief at around 5.30pm on Thursday.
Islington police received four calls within a matter of minutes.

...They were coming from the north and moving south. And then they kind of stopped and they were hovering. There was no sound. They seemed to fade away and I saw more coming and then they stopped. It lasted about 10 minutes."
[continued]
http://www.islingtongazette.co.uk/content/islington/gazette/news/story.aspx?brand=ISLGOnline&category=news&tBrand=northlondon24&tCategory=newsislg&itemid=WeED02%20Feb%202007%2016%3A56%3A48%3A657

Photo included.

Ivan Seeking

Jun20-07, 05:21 PM

Maury Island’s UFO: 60 years later, the mystery lingers
By Amelia Heagerty
Jun 20 2007

Roswell, once just a military base in the New Mexican desert, is known today as the site of the United States’ most high-profile and controversial UFO sighting and crash. But few Islanders know that Maury Island was home to the first alleged UFO sighting in U.S. history, and it took place weeks before two crafts fell from the sky in Roswell.

Tomorrow marks the 60th anniversary of the Maury Island Incident, as it was later dubbed in books and newspaper articles. It took place in June 1947, two years after World War II ended. The nation was abuzz with paranoia and suspicion, and it was in this atmosphere that first one, then two, then hundreds of Americans reported seeing strange, unidentifiable, usually saucer-shaped, objects whizzing through the sky.

These were the incidents that triggered UFO hysteria, which gripped the nation for decades and spawned countless movies and books. But it all started with one close encounter. One X file. It all started with Maury Island.[continued]
http://www.vashonbeachcomber.com/portals-code/list.cgi?paper=90&cat=23&id=1009159&more=0

Huh, this is news to me. I may know the account but never realized that it predates the Kenneth Arnold case, which was three days later.

Ivan Seeking

Oct26-07, 03:22 PM

ESCONDIDO – Retired Air Force veteran Milton Sprouse clearly remembers the summer day in 1947 when he returned to Roswell Army Air Field aboard the B-29 bomber Dave's Dream from a three-day maneuver in Florida. [continued]
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/northcounty/20071026-9999-lz1mc26ufo.html

Ivan Seeking

Oct26-07, 04:16 PM

Also, there is a rather amusing bit about presidential candidate Kucinich in the news.

In the book, MacLaine says "He saw a gigantic triangular craft, silent, and observing him. It hovered for about ten minutes or so, and sped away with a speed he couldn't comprehend. He felt a connection in his heart and heard directions in his mind."

A spokesperson for Congressman Kucinich tells Fox 8 News Kucinich has no comment.[continued]
http://www.myfoxcleveland.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=4721802&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

Ivan Seeking

Oct27-07, 03:19 AM

One more: It looks like Leslie Kean won in court and is forcing NASA to search for and release any information related to the Kecksburg incident.

WASHINGTON - NASA has agreed to search its archives once again for documents on a 1965 UFO incident in Pennsylvania, a step the space agency fought in federal court. The government has refused to open its files about what, if anything, moved across the sky and crashed in the woods near Kecksburg, Pa., 40 miles southeast of Pittsburgh.[continued]
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21494221/

-RA-

Oct28-07, 04:55 PM

This is an interesting one that happened recently just round the corner from where i live. A commercial airline pilot has reported seeing two unidentified flying objects in the sky near Guernsey. It got quite a lot of media attention (in the UK) and the pilot was interviewed on national UK TV News; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQLNblZNDEA . Some passengers saw it, and it was also picked up on radar.

A commercial airline pilot has reported seeing two unidentified flying objects in the sky near Guernsey.
The bright yellow flat disc shapes, estimated to be twice the size of a Boeing 737, were spotted on Monday, 12 to 15 miles north east of the island.

original story at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/guernsey/6591365.stm

hypatia

Nov12-07, 01:15 PM

http://www.prweb.com/releases/Unidentified_Flying/object_UFO_event/prweb567548

also check Larry King on CNN

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2007/11/12/lkl.ufo.real.cnn

Zantra

Nov14-07, 01:18 AM

Zantra

Nov14-07, 01:59 AM

One more: It looks like Leslie Kean won in court and is forcing NASA to search for and release any information related to the Kecksburg incident.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21494221/

Ya, If there was anything worthwhile they'll probably need to grab a lot of tape and head over to the NASA shredder to find those documents;)

Ivan Seeking

Nov14-07, 03:27 AM

anderson cooper on the same gathering (disclosure project?)
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/tech/2007/11/12/lustout.hk.second.life.pedophil.cnn

edit:this starts a story on second life, but in the lower part of the screen click the "ufo" story

I must say, either former Sgt. Penniston has one hell of a lot of nerve or he believes what he says. He claims to have stood next to the alleged landed craft at Rendlesham for over forty minutes. Now, it's one thing to tell this story to fringe investigators, but to take this as far as he has is surprising to me. In the past I have strongly suspected that Col. Halt - Penniston's superior - didn't really believe Penniston's story. And one can imagine that the story that Halt tells might be explained by some sort of natural phenomenon, but that is not the case with Penniston. If he is telling the truth, then a structured craft was observed on the ground at point blank range. He even claims to have touched it.

For those who don't about know this case [one of the cases discussed in Washington today], this is Halt's original report
http://www.dod.mil/pubs/foi/ufo/dep_ba1.pdf

btw, I don't think Greer [Disclosure Project] has anything to do with this one.

Ivan Seeking

Nov14-07, 04:35 AM

Here is some additional coverage by CNN.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCGO7Iser4g

Zantra

Nov15-07, 12:35 AM

I think that society has so ingrained the belief that UFO's are science fiction, that short aliens actually interacting with us on a regular basis, I think it would never be accepted

I agree with Shirley Mcclaine- we are not prepared as a society to reconcile the existence of alien life with religion. Most people wouldn't or couldn't easily accept it if an alien shook thier hand. We have built our society on the vain assumption that we are the top of the food chain. And the ant doesn't like it when you hold a magnifying glass over him.

PlasmaSphere

Dec19-07, 11:05 AM

UFO video'd in nottingham England. Shown on British national media; http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NrG0oYi-Nfw

Looks like a pretty good one. The moving of the camera in time with the object indicates that whatever is on film was actually there when it was filmed, and not added in afterwards.

[Edit] This was a hoax blimp made for a channel four TV show, http://www.apra.org.uk/A_Very_British_UFO_Hoax.htm Whoops!

Damn. it looked like a really good one. :frown:

Ivan Seeking

Jan26-08, 04:11 AM

Close up of Australia UFO photo taken Thursday as a satellite image. Bright lights in corners of triangle clearly visible, but they also raise questions of their origins. Skeptics say these could be fires and the area within the triangle that's darkened is the what's already burned, though the lights seem oddly bright and not leaning in a direction that wind currents might do. [continued]
http://axcessnews.com/index.php/articles/show/id/13832

Funny!!!

rewebster

Jan26-08, 07:11 AM

http://axcessnews.com/index.php/articles/show/id/13832

Funny!!!

that one's something on the ground--like a sheep/cow pen or something---look at the way the 'cow path' navigates around the lower right 'corner' of the triangle shape.

This is more noticeable in the 4th photo:

http://axcessnews.com/index.php/articles/show/id/13830

http://axcessnews.com/upload/Image/user_1/australia_ufo_triangle_2146ft.jpg

H.M. Murdock

Feb5-08, 11:42 AM

here there is akin of prove that ufos exist.
well SETI sent signals into Space in code describing ourselves and our components. and the UFOs were polite enough to reply us in a crop circle, there they answered us and describd their components and basic info about them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KoR2t-iM9k

here is a video when the message was first sent to space by SETI:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU9DwG7TpVA

Poop-Loops

Feb5-08, 01:45 PM

here there is akin of prove that ufos exist.
well SETI sent signals into Space in code describing ourselves and our components. and the UFOs were polite enough to reply us in a crop circle, there they answered us and describd their components and basic info about them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KoR2t-iM9k

That's your proof?

"Hey, these guys sent us a coded radio message. Do you want us to send one back?"

"No. Instead, let's make a crop circle."

Please.

H.M. Murdock

Feb5-08, 01:52 PM

That's your proof?

"Hey, these guys sent us a coded radio message. Do you want us to send one back?"

"No. Instead, let's make a crop circle."

Please.

lol yes I forgot we are too advanced for them at least they should treat us like if we were superior than them or something. no guess what, they see us like if we were apes or cave men.

the key thing is that they answered all the things in the message that was sent. and "nobody" knew about it at all. So I doubt a farmer kid in england was able to do that stuff.

Ivan Seeking

Jun11-08, 05:24 PM

...We can certainly say what did not hit our plane, as for what did, we can't be too sure, says officer Nikol Gregori, heading the investigation.

Unofficially, Romanian Ministry of Defense is convinced the object colliding with their Mig is a UFO as it was captured by the Pilot's cabin camera. [continued]
http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/1820/46/
http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2008/06/06/UFOs_hit_Romanian_plane/UPI-35591212793074/

B. Elliott

Jul24-08, 05:27 PM

Alien contact covered up, says Apollo veteran Edgar Mitchell
FORMER NASA astronaut and moonwalker Dr Edgar Mitchell - a veteran of the Apollo 14 mission - has stunningly claimed aliens do exist.

And he says extra-terrestrials have visited Earth on several occasions - but the alien contact has been repeatedly covered up by governments for six decades.
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,,24069817-5001021,00.html

Click here to listen to Mitchell's interview...
http://www.kerrangradio.co.uk/Article.asp?id=804160&spid=

Garth

Jul24-08, 05:35 PM

http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/1820/46/
http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2008/06/06/UFOs_hit_Romanian_plane/UPI-35591212793074/

The incident occured over Transilvania, when out of nowhere, the camera registered a flying object that bumped into the Mig.

Obviously a vampire........

Garth

Cyrus

Jul24-08, 07:37 PM

Alien contact covered up, says Apollo veteran Edgar Mitchell

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,,24069817-5001021,00.html

Click here to listen to Mitchell's interview...
http://www.kerrangradio.co.uk/Article.asp?id=804160&spid=

<groan> This isnt good for NASA or science, or anyone, when he makes claims with no evidence other than "IM a Doctor, and Im an ASTRONAUT".

Its like watching those infomercials. "Hi, Im a doctor, take this homeopathics to cure all your problems".

Evo

Jul24-08, 09:38 PM

Edgar Mitchell is a long time looney toon. He founded the Noetic Institute, if that gives any clue.

Mitchell's interests include consciousness and paranormal phenomena. During the Apollo 14 flight he conducted private ESP experiments with his friends on Earth.[3] In early 1973, he founded the nonprofit Institute of Noetic Sciences (IONS) to conduct and sponsor research into areas that mainstream science has found unproductive, including consciousness research and psychic events.

Mitchell says that a teenage remote healer who lives in Vancouver and uses the pseudonym Adam Dreamhealer, helped heal him of kidney cancer at a distance. Mitchell said that while he never had a biopsy (the definitive test for cancer), "I had a sonogram and MRI that was consistent with renal carcinoma." Adam worked (distantly) on Mitchell from December of 2003 until June of 2004, when the "irregularity was gone and we haven't seen it since."[4]

Mitchell has publicly expressed his opinions that he is "90 per cent sure that many of the thousands of unidentified flying objects, or UFOs, recorded since the 1940s, belong to visitors from other planets"[5] and that UFOs have been the "subject of disinformation in order to deflect attention and to create confusion so the truth doesn't come out."[6] In 2004 he told the St. Petersburg Times that a "cabal of insiders" inside the US Government were studying recovered alien bodies, and that this group had stopped briefing US Presidents after John F. Kennedy.[7] He has said, that "We all know that UFOs are real, now the question is, where they come from."[8]

On July 23, 2008 Edgar Mitchell was interviewed on Kerrang Radio. Mitchell claimed the Roswell crash was real and that Aliens have contacted humans several times but that governments have hidden the truth for 60 years stating, "'I happen to have been privileged enough to be in on the fact that we've been visited on this planet and the UFO phenomena is real." In reply, a spokesman for NASA stated, "NASA does not track UFOs. NASA is not involved in any sort of cover up about alien life on this planet or anywhere in the universe. Dr Mitchell is a great American, but we do not share his opinions on this issue."[9] [10]

Edgar Mitchell is one of the astronauts featured in the documentary In the Shadow of the Moon.

As well as academic papers,[11] Mitchell has written two books: Psychic Exploration: A Challenge for Science (ISBN 0-399-11342-8) and The Way of the Explorer (ISBN 1-57270-019-X). In The Way of the Explorer, Mitchell proposed a dyadic model of reality.[12]

He is currently the Advisory Board Chairman of the Institute for Cooperation in Space, co-founded by Dr. Carol Rosin[13] and is a member of INREES.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Mitchell

Noetic Institute

The Institute of Noetic Sciences (IONS) was co-founded in 1973 by former astronaut Edgar Mitchell and industrialist Paul N. Temple[1] to encourage and conduct research and education programs on mind-body relationships for the purpose of expanding "human possibility by investigating aspects of reality—mind, consciousness, and spirit."[2] Institute programs include research in what they call "extended human capacities," "integral health and healing," and "emerging worldviews". This includes research into spiritual energy, meditation, consciousness, alternative healing, spirituality, human potential, psychic abilities and life after death, among others.[3]

Headquartered in Petaluma, California, the Institute's membership is approximately 35,000.[4] The organization is situated on a 200-acre (80 hectare) campus housing an active retreat and learning center. [5]

The institute's name is derrived from noetic theory, which is concerned with intellectual or rational activity, and proposes the idea of an evolutionary shift in humans to a new species called Homo noeticus, possessing paranormal abilities.

The Institute publishes a quarterly review called Shift: At the Frontiers of Consciousness. However, the Institute lacks accreditation for scientific peer review.[6]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_of_Noetic_Sciences

Ivan Seeking

Jul25-08, 02:09 AM

<groan> This isnt good for NASA or science, or anyone, when he makes claims with no evidence other than "IM a Doctor, and Im an ASTRONAUT".

Its like watching those infomercials. "Hi, Im a doctor, take this homeopathics to cure all your problems".

I don't think that is a valid comparison. He claims to have had access to privileged information - that he has direct knowledge of this claim due to his position and career. Mitchell also claims to have had some kind of profound spiritual experience while on the way to or from the moon.

Either he has become a faith-based true believer, or he is a scammer, or he really knows something. He would sound like a nut no matter which was the case - it becomes a chicken and egg proglem. So on one hand he is easy to dismiss because he sounds nuts, but on the other hand, he is only one of many previously high-ranking military or intelligence people telling approximately the same story. For example, fellow astronaut Gordon Cooper claimed to have witnessed a UFO [flying saucer] landing at a military base...I think it was Edwards AFB, in California. He also claimed to have seen inexplicable crafts while a fighter pilot in WWII.

In fact the list of these names is long and impressive. Be it all bull or not, these stories don't all come from drunk country bumpkins.

the French COMETA report, which was produced by a good number of high-ranking French military people, recently declared that some UFOs "probably are", or perhaps "may be" [I would have to check the report] crafts flown or controlled by ETs.

gareth

Jul25-08, 03:59 AM

Edgar Mitchell is a long time loony toon. He founded the Noetic Institute, if that gives any clue.

I don't think this is necessarily fair either.

If someone founds an institute concerning the research of a non-mainstream field, does that classify them as a 'looney toon'?

If so, it follows that US, Soviet and most other superpowers of the world fall into this category. They have all conducted research programs concerning topics such as astral viewing, mind control via drugs etc (albeit for purposes of war). These are not just theories, they did it.

I am not a psychologist, so I don't know the exact border between 'sane' and 'insane', but I'm pretty sure they don't send clinically insane people into space. So unless he has gone crazy since the mission, it is unfair to make a judgment on his mental state.

I agree, he is making some extravagant claims, and seems to have a general fascination with the paranormal (from what I've read). Which puts him in the line of sceptical fire straight away.

Bottom line I think it's a bit hand-waving to dismiss someone's claims because they don't fall in line with our current reality, unless you have evidence to prove otherwise.

People have had crazy ideas in the past; Martin Luther King, Albert Einstein and Louis De Broglie to name but a few, and it turned out they weren't so crazy after all.

G

DaveC426913

Jul25-08, 08:09 AM

I am not a psychologist, so I don't know the exact border between 'sane' and 'insane', but I'm pretty sure they don't send clinically insane people into space. So unless he has gone crazy since the mission, it is unfair to make a judgment on his mental state.
Actually, I once read an article that made the point that astronauts by definition must be mentally unbalanced. To be the best of the best, and then to strive so hard to be the best of that lot requires an almost inhuman level of drive and sacrifice. But here's the kicker: on top of that, they are also expert compartmentalizers - since they'll then have to fool the psyhcologists into thinking that (other than their drive to strap themselves to a bomb), they are very well-adjusted and not a seething mass of competitive testosterone.

Perhaps a bit melodramatic, but food for thought...:rolleyes:

BoomBoom

Jul25-08, 10:46 AM

I'm pretty sure they don't send clinically insane people into space.

Let's not forget THIS (http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/02/05/space.love/index.html) lady! :rolleyes:

Ivan Seeking

Jul25-08, 03:35 PM

...it is unfair to make a judgment on his mental state.

Actually, the objection that I have is that we have people here playing doctor. Who here is qualified to made judgements about his mental state?

Crackpot medical opinions will not be tolerated.

B. Elliott

Jul26-08, 12:16 PM

Although not new news, Gordon Cooper, one of the astronauts involved with Project Mercury also claims that alien spacecraft have visited Earth. He states that he witnessed seeing at least a few different UFOs in this interview.

http://www.youtube.com/v/dvPR8T1o3Dc&hl

gareth

Jul28-08, 10:00 AM

It's interesting that they (astronauts who have seen UFO's), seem to make the judgement that they are indeed alien spacecraft with another race from the far off reaches of space behind the wheel when they see a UFO.

From their interviews they seem to have just seen flying saucers, strange craft etc. They don't seem to consider the possibility that they were of earthly origin at all.

Perhaps their position in security cirlces etc. gave them the attitude of "if we did have such technology, we'd know about it!". Usually when people see a UFO from earth, their reports describe the object but they are hesitant to speculate what it is, why? Because they don't know what it is.

Any thoughts?

WarPhalange

Jul28-08, 10:16 AM

Do they ever say where they saw these UFO's? Do foreign Astronauts claim to have seen UFO's?

I ask because I'd find it odd that there would be some sort of scheduling conflict between a very popular program, i.e. space flight, and something very top secret like testing new spacecraft. Of course, for all I know part of the test could be to fly around the world, so it would be unavoidable, or possibly other countries' secret testing, but even then, NASA doesn't keep dates of space flights like that secret, does it?

gareth

Jul28-08, 10:44 AM

I ask because I'd find it odd that there would be some sort of scheduling conflict between a very popular program, i.e. space flight, and something very top secret like testing new spacecraft.

Good point, if they wanted to keep a new technology secret, flight tests during a heavily publicised NASA space launch is not the best time to do it I suppose.

So I guess it can be broken down to a few possibilities (assuming their testamonies are real);

1) They are indeed craft manned by ET's and they're flying around earth, trying not to shock us too much by not landing on the whitehouse lawn

2) They are of earthly origin, and been spotted by a few people doesn't really bother them

3) They are back-engineered ET craft, but for some reason don't mind being seen by NASA austronauts

Maybe this just gives rise to more questions

WarPhalange

Jul28-08, 11:01 AM

Do they describe anywhere what it is they saw? Could be some sort of natural phenomenon.

1) They are indeed craft manned by ET's and they're flying around earth, trying not to shock us too much by not landing on the whitehouse lawn

That's one of the arguments I've heard. That ET's are trying to get people used to the idea of aliens and stuff like that so that when they do land on the White House lawn people will simply be like "Oh. Okay." instead of freaking out. Don't humans do that too when they try to get closer to some wild animals? Just gradually get closer and leave some of their stuff around so the animal get used to the smell?

gareth

Jul28-08, 11:23 AM

Don't humans do that too when they try to get closer to some wild animals? Just gradually get closer and leave some of their stuff around so the animal get used to the smell?

That's a funny analogy! And I've heard that theory before concerning the gradual acceptance of ET life. Some people speculate that we are not 'mature' enough on the evolutionary scale to accept the idea.

But it begs the question, why not just wait? Why fly around earth wasting your time being spotted once every few months, don't they have alien jobs to go to?

And the other question that crops up a lot, why bother with us at all? If we were an extremely technologically advanced civilisation and could travel throughout the universe, visiting other planets and races, would we bother going to a planet that are cave dwelers in comparison and slowly introduce ourselves over many years or even thousands of years? Just to say hi, your not alone in the universe, and then leave again? I suspect not, we would have better things to do.

There are a few interviews and stuff on youtube with a couple of astronauts, but from what I've heard they have just seen 'craft' which they have assumed to be intelligently controlled, flying in formation etc. But I suppose they could be natural phenomena that we don't know about yet but it's quite hard to imagine what, (enexplained changes in direction at high velocity etc).

WarPhalange

Jul28-08, 11:42 AM

But it begs the question, why not just wait? Why fly around earth wasting your time being spotted once every few months, don't they have alien jobs to go to?

Humans study animals all the time. Don't they have anything better to do? The fact is we can learn a lot from other life forms, so maybe these ET's are just studying us in the mean time? Humans are advanced species, but we can't just slice open a bear and tell you how the brain works. Assuming ET's are powerful enough to do that is kind of baseless.

And the other question that crops up a lot, why bother with us at all? If we were an extremely technologically advanced civilisation and could travel throughout the universe, visiting other planets and races, would we bother going to a planet that are cave dwelers in comparison and slowly introduce ourselves over many years or even thousands of years? Just to say hi, your not alone in the universe, and then leave again? I suspect not, we would have better things to do.

Again, why do humans study animals at all? We learn more about ourselves. If we invented teleportation tomorrow, we'd still have people snorkling to study fish and going to the desert to study some lizard.

The "thousands of years" part is what gets me, though. We can't be certain that cave paintings and such are depictions of space craft, but if you assume they are, everything else kind of falls apart. I don't understand why anybody would wait around for a thousand years, either.

There are a few interviews and stuff on youtube with a couple of astronauts, but from what I've heard they have just seen 'craft' which they have assumed to be intelligently controlled, flying in formation etc. But I suppose they could be natural phenomena that we don't know about yet but it's quite hard to imagine what, (enexplained changes in direction at high velocity etc).

If they don't describe what they saw, I can't take it apart. I need observations, not conclusions.

DaveC426913

Jul28-08, 12:51 PM

If they don't describe what they saw, I can't take it apart. I need observations, not conclusions.I'm fairly certain there's just no way a description of any detail will lead to any kind of conclusion. Either you see it for yourself, or you simply take the conclusion of the person that did see it and trust that they can critically analyze at least as well as you can.

WarPhalange

Jul28-08, 01:04 PM

DaveC426913

Jul28-08, 01:28 PM

An aerospace engineer might be as good a critical thinker as a meteorologist, but if they see a red flashing object going real fast their biases will give them different answers.

That's why I'd like to know what he saw vs. what he thinks it was he saw. It's essentially a multiple-choice question. If you see something, your brain asks "What it A, B, C, or D?" and tries to find the right answer. Well, there could be E and F, but your brain just doesn't know about it, so it can't take it into account.
Yes but his 'description' of it will be based on that same information. It's not like his description will come unprocessed, directly from his visual input...

DaveC426913

Jul28-08, 01:31 PM

Ivan Seeking

Jul28-08, 10:07 PM

This has gotten far too speculative; esp wrt what ET would do. The rule is that we cannot discuss questions that assume an unproven premise. So, if it is proven that ET is here, then we can discuss the motives and strategy of ETs, but until then we are limited to the specific evidence for alleged UFO events, and claims of personal experience.

Also, this is a UFO news thread. A bit of exchange is fine, but if you want to discuss the psychology of UFO sightings, please start a new thread.

nuby

Jul29-08, 12:33 PM

http://www.sciam.com/video.cfm?id=4247755A73B80E57BB1FCC316D98DE90

Is this retired astronaut credible?

gareth

Jul30-08, 04:25 AM

not much detail there, other than that he believes it to be true,

check out this UFO report that made it into the news in Northern Ireland

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ5zEa8V9qs

Ivan Seeking

Sep12-08, 11:02 PM

ABC continues its investigative reports.

.."UFOs: Seeing is Believing" takes a serious look at the phenomenon in today's world. The 90-minute special includes interviews with scientists searching for proof of life beyond earth and UFO witnesses who claim aliens are already here. Building on the original Peter Jennings report in 2005, David Muir reports on new sightings, as well as NASA's current search for life on Mars.

"UFOs: Seeing is Believing," to be broadcast in HDTV, airs on a special edition of "Primetime" Tuesday, September 16 from 9:30 - 11:00 p.m. ET. [continued]
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=5790432

hvs

Sep14-08, 09:36 AM

ABC continues its investigative reports.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=5790432

Thanks for the heads up.

Ivan Seeking

Sep14-08, 05:28 PM

UFO sightings lead to star role on Discovery

By CHRISTOPHER RUVO
The Intelligencer

A national organization that investigates alleged UFO sightings says it has collected titillating data during days of interviews with witnesses of supposed other-worldly aircraft over Bucks County.

While that may encourage true believers, a Franklin Institute astronomer cautioned that folks shouldn't jump to the conclusion that little green men are circling over Southeastern Pennsylvania just because unidentified objects have been glimpsed in the night skies.

John Ventre was in Bucks County this summer with a film crew from the Discovery Channel interviewing residents after a rash of UFO sightings in the area were reported to the Mutual UFO Network, a Colorado-based nonprofit that investigates sightings around the country.

Ventre, MUFON's Pennsylvania coordinator, said much of what he learned in interviews was compelling. He spoke with those who reported the approximately 45 sightings in the Bucks County area during the past three months. [continued]
http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/113-09142008-1590562.html

Ivan Seeking

Sep29-08, 04:21 AM

THE truth is out there -- and if a senior garda, a Fianna Fail politician and a pilot are to be believed, aliens are keeping a close eye on us from above.

Dramatic eye-witness testimony was heard at a conference over the weekend which, delegates were told, provided "definitive" proof of recent UFO activity in the skies around north Dublin and Meath.

Footage, filmed on a camera phone at 10.35pm on August 3 near Dunboyne was also played and replayed to over 70 delegates who attended the fifth Irish International UFO conference in Carrick-on-Shannon.

The triangular shaped image, with lights at each point, which appeared to send a red laser-type light towards earth, drew gasps of amazement from the 70 or so delegates who attended the world premiere of the footage [continued]
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/were-not-alone----politician--and-pilot--spot-ufo-1484949.html

CEL

Sep29-08, 09:42 AM

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/were-not-alone----politician--and-pilot--spot-ufo-1484949.html

I have not seen the film, but laser beans cannot ordinarily be seen side wise, except when smoke or dust scatters them. The phaser shots in Star Trek are nice, but not real.

Ivan Seeking

Sep29-08, 11:55 AM

True, but to be fair, that was just an interpretation of the alleged evidence. And of course a bit of fog could account for visible beams.

One error often made by skeptics and debunkers is to discount alleged evidence based on the interpretation of events by non-scientists, rather than just the evidence. On the other hand, no video can act as proof. No matter how good, by definition, the assumption will almost always be that the video was hoaxed. Only with strong coroborating evidence do they carry any weight.

gareth

Sep29-08, 12:10 PM

Any link to the footage yet?

Would be interesting to see it.

Ivan Seeking

Sep29-08, 12:22 PM

You have as much information as I do. :smile: If they really have something interesting, we should see more soon.

pftest

Oct8-08, 02:37 PM

gareth

Oct9-08, 03:05 AM

I present to you the amazing Fianna triangle video:

http://www.realufos.net/2008/10/irish-triangle-ufo-video.html
mirror: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb2a2qzcuJE

I think it looks a bit fake. The camera is too steady, the craft moves too smooth.

ye, and the zoom seems to be pretty impressive for a camera phone

(but maybe Fianna Fail can afford nice camera phones!)

CEL

Oct9-08, 04:24 AM

ye, and the zoom seems to be pretty impressive for a camera phone

(but maybe Fianna Fail can afford nice camera phones!)

By the way, a zoom is only effective for relatively near objects, so the UFO should be only a few kilometers away and not very big.

kasse

Oct10-08, 04:55 AM

So what do you think of Dean Mitchell claiming aliens have been and are visiting us? Is he just a stupid nutcase?

gareth

Oct10-08, 11:40 AM

Hold up,

The 'more info' in the youtube video reads as follows#

This is a video was on a cheap camera I found when Hiking in the Smokey Mountains.
This is all that was on it.

(edit 10-09-2008)
I can not believe how much interest this video has gotten.
To answer a few questions.
The camera was NOT a camera phone
it is a cheap picture camera with video capability. It had no sound.
It only had a 4meg card in it and the video filled the whole card.
It was found along a trail near the North Carolina/Tennessee border.
It was found before the Irish video was announced. I only put it up when I heard about that one because it sounded like the same thing.
A UFO/Paranormal researcher has the original right now. He said he will put the full higher quality video up this weekend on a website. When he does I will come back and post the link on top of this page.
I just heard back from the researcher, and he will have a full update for sure this weekend

so still no Irish UFO.....................

CEL

Oct10-08, 01:46 PM

So what do you think of Dean Mitchell claiming aliens have been and are visiting us? Is he just a stupid nutcase?

Can you provide a link for his claims?

Ivan Seeking

Oct10-08, 01:53 PM

Please start another thread.

kasse

Oct11-08, 12:10 AM

Can you provide a link for his claims?

New thread started.

pftest

Oct11-08, 12:28 PM

Hold up,

The 'more info' in the youtube video reads as follows#

[I]This is a video was on a cheap camera I found when Hiking in the Smokey Mountains.
This is all that was on it.Finding a camera with ufo footage on it sounds extremely implausible.

* Here is the proof that its not real, it was made for a ufo competition by a guy called Jeff Wilson:
http://www.ufo-blog.com/ufo-blog/

Ivan Seeking

Oct11-08, 12:36 PM

Do you think? :biggrin:

I think we are done with this one.

Ivan Seeking

Oct11-08, 12:45 PM

...Steve Robey remembers it like it was yesterday. The now-retired air traffic controller was working the night shift at the Melbourne Flight Service Unit on Saturday, October 21, 1978, when the call came in at 7.06pm.

Pilot Frederick Valentich, flying from Moorabbin Airport to King Island to pick up some crayfish, reported that a strange aircraft was "playing a game with him" and he wanted to know if any military planes were in the area....
http://www.theage.com.au/national/30-years-on-ufo-mystery-still-vivid-20081011-4yss.html

References to official documents for this event are found in the UFO Napster.

gareth

Oct13-08, 03:17 AM

http://www.theage.com.au/national/30-years-on-ufo-mystery-still-vivid-20081011-4yss.html

References to official documents for this event are found in the UFO Napster.

Interesting case, it seems that this area has a bit of a reputation, check out this Wiki article;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bass_Strait_Triangle

nuby

Oct20-08, 08:22 AM

LONDON (Reuters) – Two U.S. fighter planes were scrambled and ordered to shoot down an unidentified flying object (UFO) over the English countryside during the Cold War, according to secret files made public on Monday.

One pilot said he was seconds away from firing 24 rockets at the object, which moved erratically and gave a radar reading like "a flying aircraft carrier."

The pilot, Milton Torres, now 77 and living in Miami, said it spent periods motionless in the sky before reaching estimated speeds of more than 7,600 mph (12,000 kph)...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081020/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_britain_ufo

MIB! lol

Ai52487963

Oct20-08, 02:17 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7679145.stm

"The chances of there being nothing else in billions of cubic light years is too slim to consider"

edward

Oct21-08, 06:26 PM

From an article in my morning paper.

LONDON — An American fighter pilot flying from an English air base at the height of the Cold War was ordered to open fire on a massive UFO that lit up his radar, according to an account published by Britain's National Archives on Monday.

http://www.azstarnet.com/allheadlines/263382

Source given in the hard copy:

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

edward

Oct21-08, 11:22 PM

For what it is worth here are other incidents in the UK that were declassified and put into the national archives this month.

http://ufos.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

Ivan Seeking

Oct25-08, 11:01 PM

More UFO reports from Texas [with video]
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2008/10/25/pkg.tx.more.ufo.sightings.wfaa

Ivan Seeking

Oct26-08, 02:33 AM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081020/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_britain_ufo

If you believe former fighter pilot Milton Torres' story — and news organizations around the world are running with it — the U.S. Air Force was seconds from attacking an alien aircraft over England late one cloudy night in 1957.

Possible interstellar war was averted when the unidentified flying object sped away.

"It was not made of this earth," said Torres, 77, a retired Florida International University engineering professor.

Torres' account was included in thousands of pages of UFO-related documents recently declassified by the British Ministry of Defense and posted online by the British national archive.[continued]
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/bizarre/6077389.html

DaveC426913

Oct26-08, 09:31 AM

So is anyone who's reviewing all this new evidence finding that they're changing their opinion from pro to con or con to pro?

dlgoff

Oct26-08, 09:46 AM

More UFO reports from Texas [with video]
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2008/10/25/pkg.tx.more.ufo.sightings.wfaa
The video doesn't seem to work.

Ivan Seeking

Oct26-08, 12:17 PM

You may need to update your adobe flash player.

Ivan Seeking

Oct26-08, 01:27 PM

Here is an alternative link.
http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/wfaa/localnews/news8/stories/wfaa081025_lj_ufo.1497ef4d3.html

Ivan Seeking

Nov20-08, 12:50 AM

UFOs over Austin?

AUSTIN -- Carl Lancaster of Austin believes that UFOs are hovering over the city's sky at night and believes he has the video to prove it. Foti Kallergis spoke with Lancaster who showed FOX 7 his UFO footage...
http://www.myfoxaustin.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7896002&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1

Note that at the end, the good Professor makes a classic debunking error. His argument against visting ETs is that were ETs visiting, he knows what they would be doing. Since the alleged ETs aren't doing what he would expect, clearly they aren't here!

Obviously we have no way to anticipate the motivations or logic behind the actions of a visiting ET, were ETs visiting.

gareth

Nov20-08, 02:22 AM

They're interesting vids, darting around, disappearing and re-appearing...a classic UFO.

I agree about the Dr.'s comments, I especially like the one They would just take over again anticipating the actions of visiting ETs, with a definate underlying hollywood influence.

Ivan Seeking

Jan30-09, 01:38 AM

The Danish Air Force has opened its UFO archives...over 15,000 report[s]

UFO archives are now readily available to the public, detailing sightings from over the last 30 years. The Danish Air Force published the archive online yesterday because it felt that ‘there was nothing secret in the files’.

The Air Force said that most of the sightings remained ‘unidentified’ because the details were not precise enough. However, some of the reports contained enough description to rule out the UFOs as aircraft, weather phenomenon or paper lanterns...
http://www.cphpost.dk/news/national/article/88-national/44602-secret-ufo-archives-opened.html

Ivan Seeking

Feb16-09, 09:24 PM

3eoAkC1vPfA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eoAkC1vPfA

uswvFfpGovU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uswvFfpGovU

subliminal

Feb26-09, 10:55 AM

New member here, I am a MUFON investigator. If anyone is interested I can give you the Radar Report from the Stephensville Texas case. It is lengthy about 80 pages or so but it is very interesting. The radar report backs up what the witnesses claimed to have seen.

redargon

Feb27-09, 02:17 AM

I think we already have that one a couple pages back on this thread or on one of the others

subliminal

Feb27-09, 08:56 AM

Really? This is a PDF file.

Ivan Seeking

Mar1-09, 05:52 PM

Really? This is a PDF file.

I think we had a reference but I don't think the entire file was available. Thanks for the offer [I assume that you are offering it for free?].

Is there no online link for this? Also, how much memory does it take?

subliminal

Mar1-09, 07:54 PM

Here is a link to the full report. It is 77 pages long.

www.mufon.com/documents/MUFONStephenvilleRadarReport.pdf

Ivan Seeking

Mar2-09, 12:37 AM

Thanks. I'll add it to the UFO Napster as well.

Mammo

Mar7-09, 05:18 AM

Ivan Seeking;

I personally believe that there could be two main reasons for the genuine UFO phenomena. One is the obvious 'saucer' shaped craft, which are either extraterrestrial or man-made whilst the other is something more down-to-earth. There is substantial evidence of 'things with wings' in the cryptozoological world. It is not beyond the bounds of reasoning to suggest that a large unknown night-flying (i.e. wing flapping) creature has developed bioluminescence. If small creatures that live at the bottom of the sea can do it, so can big things that fly in the dark. Have you ever heard of anyone with this opinion?

CEL

Mar7-09, 01:27 PM

Ivan Seeking

Mar7-09, 05:29 PM

The two options are possible and equally probable. A more likely explanation is misidentification of aircrafts, atmospheric phenomena or heavenly bodies.

In the most intersting cases, the problem with claiming atmospheric phenomena is this: What phenomena? As I have said before, even if we all agree that some of the most interesting reports are, say, due to ball lighitning, we still have quite a mystery. The problem is that we are creating explanations from thin air with no supporting evidence. To then accept these explanations is an act of faith, not science.

Mammo

Mar10-09, 04:54 AM

In the most intersting cases, the problem with claiming atmospheric phenomena is this: What phenomena? As I have said before, even if we all agree that some of the most interesting reports are, say, due to ball lighitning, we still have quite a mystery. The problem is that we are creating explanations from thin air with no supporting evidence. To then accept these explanations is an act of faith, not science.I agree with this. Even claims of 'earth lights' after earthquake events are total speculation. At least ball lightning has been replicated in the lab. I even believe that the 'things with wings' explanation is better than mystery earth generated lighting effects. There was a TV programme (Monster Hunter?) where a team of investigators went to Umboi Island to film the 'pterosaur-like' creature reported by the natives. They got mystery lights recorded in the pitch dark on camera, although they couldn't see anything with the naked eye, but they definitely got the heeby-geebies.

Ivan Seeking

Mar10-09, 05:22 AM

Even claims of 'earth lights' after earthquake events are total speculation. At least ball lightning has been replicated in the lab.

Not entirely correct. Earthquake lights are now generally accepted as a genuine phenomenon, as is ball lightning. The "ball lightning" produced in labs so far only vaguely resembles the phenomenon reported. For example, in the lab, a sustained energy source in the form of microwaves is required.

Ivan Seeking

Mar11-09, 04:08 PM

Is there a link to scientific Earthlight investigation?

There are plenty of links in the Credible Anomalies Napster
http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=58374

Please continue discussions in a regular thread. This thread is for UFO news.

pftest

Mar23-09, 10:27 AM

The MOD releases more ufo files:

Other cases include the description of a black inverted boomerang-shaped UFO by two experienced air traffic controllers at Heathrow. The sighting, from the airport's control tower on the morning of 17 December 1992, came a week after numerous witnesses in Louth, Lincolnshire, reported seeing three lights attached to a large, triangular craft.

...

The most intriguing incident involving such a craft occurred at 9pm on 4 August 1990, at Calvine, a remote hamlet near Pitlochry in Scotland. According to the brief details released by the MoD, witnesses saw a diamond-shaped UFO hovering for about 10 minutes before it disappeared upwards at high speed. During the incident, Harrier jump jets were seen making a number of low-level passes. Colour photographs reveal both the UFO and at least one of the jets.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/mar/22/ufos-aliens-di55-modI wonder if the pics of the diamond ufo are online somewhere.

Ivan Seeking

Sep7-09, 07:05 PM

This story is breaking as if a credible report. It is a bit hard to tell at this point so I am posting for tracking purposes. If anyone has good information supporting or debunking this report, please post it.

Scientists at the Purple Mountain Observatory in Nanjing are reported to have confirmed that they filmed a UFO during the eclipse for 40 minutes. They say that they will spend the next 12 months studying the footage before drawing any conclusions....
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/ufo/6148974/Chinese-scientists-filmed-UFO-for-40-minutes.html

There are so many bogus internet news sources these days that it is getting harder and harder to pick out any potentially credible reports.

Garth

Sep8-09, 01:50 AM

This story is breaking as if a credible report. It is a bit hard to tell at this point so I am posting for tracking purposes. If anyone has good information supporting or debunking this report, please post it.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/ufo/6148974/Chinese-scientists-filmed-UFO-for-40-minutes.html

There are so many bogus internet news sources these days that it is getting harder and harder to pick out any potentially credible reports.

The Telgraph is a conservative paper in the UK - its report ought to be accurate, that says nothing, of course, about the nature of the observations at the Purple Mountain observatory.

Garth

Chronos

Sep8-09, 02:20 AM

After so many years of credible reports, I do not see how all of them can be dismissed as illusions or delusions. I resist the alien visitation hypothesis. I am, however, curious if transient dimensional rifts are a plausible explanation. It would also explain other paranormal events. Who knows, perhaps it is alien technology attempting to communicate with us.

Ivan Seeking

Sep9-09, 02:16 PM

The Telgraph is a conservative paper in the UK - its report ought to be accurate, that says nothing, of course, about the nature of the observations at the Purple Mountain observatory.

Garth

I was referring to the number of Google hits I get every day from crackpot sources. When I first started using it, the biggest problem with the Google alerts was that I was notified about everything the rock group UFO was doing, but now there are probably dozens of pseudo news services putting out tons of garbage.

kpax

Sep23-09, 11:59 AM

I'm pretty excited to see "I Know What I Saw" airing October 4 on the History Channel. It will feature the most credible UFO cases and witnesses from around the world.

Here's the trailer:

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Here's a promotional segment from Larry King Live:

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Ivan Seeking

Sep23-09, 01:24 PM

Out of the Blue was pretty good. The Peter Jenning's special was accurate, AFAIK, but had no depth. The UFO hunters shows are mostly garbage and the guy who runs them is a complete nut, imo. He is the classic UFO crackpot who sees conspiracies and intervening aliens behind every shadow.

We do have some good documentaries cited in the UFO Napster, but many links are dead. Optional links can be found with a search in most cases.

Thanks for the alert, KPax. I will certainly watch. But as Dave said, these days, most shows about this subject are hyped, sloppy, and sometimes downright dishonest. Perhaps this one will be better.

An aside: Recently I happened to watch Close Encounters. While watching, I suddenly noticed a brief close-up of Hynek. I couldn't believe that after all of these years I never knew he was actually in the movie. Funny!