Ilja Schmelzer
Aug9-05, 03:06 AM
<jabberwocky><div class="vbmenu_control"><a href="jabberwocky:;" onClick="newWindow=window.open('','usenetCode','toolbar=no, location=no,scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,status=no ,width=650,height=400'); newWindow.document.write('<HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Usenet ASCII</TITLE></HEAD><BODY topmargin=0 leftmargin=0 BGCOLOR=#F1F1F1><table border=0 width=625><td bgcolor=midnightblue><font color=#F1F1F1>This Usenet message\'s original ASCII form: </font></td></tr><tr><td width=449><br><br><font face=courier><UL><PRE>"Martin Ouwehand" <see.URL@end.of.post.ch> schrieb\n> Perspicacious <iperspicacious@yahoo.com> writes:\n>\n> ] Why isn\'t the mathematician Henri Poincaré acknowledged as the true\n> ] discoverer of the special theory of relativity?\n\n> But despite this, Poincaré still believed somehow in the aether and that\n> the speed of light is *not* the same in all inertial frames: for example\n> in his 1909 Conference [1], he explains that it is not possible to\n> synchronize two clocks A and B *which are mutually at rest* by exchanging\n> light signals because, if they were moving (I guess with respect to the\n> aether), the time for trip A->B wouldn\'t be the same as the time for trip\n> B->A, by an amount which it is impossible to determine, because the\n> principle of relativity.\n>\n> He certainly did not explain, as Einstein did, the changes to the concepts\n> of space and time that follow from the theory of relativity.\n\nHm, the question is if they follow from the theory.\n\nAn ether interpretation of relativity with classical space and time but\ndistorted measurements is certainly in agreement with the facts and\nthe mathematical apparatus of special relativity.\n\nThe spacetime interpretation is only one of two interpretations,\nit is not a logical consequence.\n\nIlja\n\n</UL></PRE></font></td></tr></table></BODY><HTML>');"> <IMG SRC=/images/buttons/ip.gif BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER ALT="View this Usenet post in original ASCII form"> View this Usenet post in original ASCII form </a></div><P></jabberwocky>"Martin Ouwehand" <see.URL@end.of.post.ch> schrieb
> Perspicacious <iperspicacious@yahoo.com> writes:
>
> ] Why isn't the mathematician Henri Poincaré acknowledged as the true
> ] discoverer of the special theory of relativity?
> But despite this, Poincaré still believed somehow in the aether and that
> the speed of light is *not* the same in all inertial frames: for example
> in his 1909 Conference [1], he explains that it is not possible to
> synchronize two clocks A and B *which are mutually at rest* by exchanging
> light signals because, if they were moving (I guess with respect to the
> aether), the time for trip A->B wouldn't be the same as the time for trip
> B->A, by an amount which it is impossible to determine, because the
> principle of relativity.
>
> He certainly did not explain, as Einstein did, the changes to the concepts
> of space and time that follow from the theory of relativity.
Hm, the question is if they follow from the theory.
An ether interpretation of relativity with classical space and time but
distorted measurements is certainly in agreement with the facts and
the mathematical apparatus of special relativity.
The spacetime interpretation is only one of two interpretations,
it is not a logical consequence.
Ilja
> Perspicacious <iperspicacious@yahoo.com> writes:
>
> ] Why isn't the mathematician Henri Poincaré acknowledged as the true
> ] discoverer of the special theory of relativity?
> But despite this, Poincaré still believed somehow in the aether and that
> the speed of light is *not* the same in all inertial frames: for example
> in his 1909 Conference [1], he explains that it is not possible to
> synchronize two clocks A and B *which are mutually at rest* by exchanging
> light signals because, if they were moving (I guess with respect to the
> aether), the time for trip A->B wouldn't be the same as the time for trip
> B->A, by an amount which it is impossible to determine, because the
> principle of relativity.
>
> He certainly did not explain, as Einstein did, the changes to the concepts
> of space and time that follow from the theory of relativity.
Hm, the question is if they follow from the theory.
An ether interpretation of relativity with classical space and time but
distorted measurements is certainly in agreement with the facts and
the mathematical apparatus of special relativity.
The spacetime interpretation is only one of two interpretations,
it is not a logical consequence.
Ilja