Proving the Increasing Nature of the Sequence x_n=(1+1/n)^n

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The discussion centers on proving that the sequence \( x_n = \left(1 + \frac{1}{n}\right)^n \) is increasing. Participants explore various methods, including induction and series expansion, while addressing the constraints of their current mathematical knowledge.

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  • One participant attempts to prove the sequence is increasing using induction but encounters difficulties with the necessary inequalities.
  • Another participant suggests that the derivative of the sequence is positive, implying it is increasing, but notes that derivatives have not yet been covered in their studies.
  • A participant proposes using the Binomial Theorem to expand the terms of the sequence to demonstrate the inequality needed for proving it is increasing.
  • Further discussion includes the expansion of \( x_n \) and \( x_{n+1} \) using the Binomial Theorem, leading to a potential conclusion that \( x_{n+1} > x_n \).
  • Participants express gratitude for insights into using the Binomial Theorem, indicating a collaborative effort to understand the problem better.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the best method to prove the sequence is increasing, with multiple approaches being discussed and no definitive resolution to the initial problem presented.

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Some participants note the limitations of their current mathematical knowledge, particularly regarding derivatives and formal proofs, which may affect their ability to fully engage with the problem.

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i need to prove that the sequence is increasing, i.e, x_n+1>=x_n
which translates into:
[(n+2)/(n+1)]^(n+1)>=[(n+1)/n]^n

i tried through induction but got stumbled:
n=k
[(k+2)/(k+1)]^(k+1)>= [(k+1)/k]^k

n=k+1
[(k+3)/(k+2)]^(k+2)>=[(k+2)/(k+1)]^(k+1)
now i need to prove the last inequality, and got baffled.
any help is appreciated, perhaps induction isn't the right way?

p.s
i know this sequence converges to e, so spare me the trivial details about this sequence.
thanks in advance.
 
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The derivative is > 0
 
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SteveRives said:
For n > 0, its derivative is > 0. Therefore increasing.
So how do you show that
[tex]\ln \left(1+\frac{1}{x} \right) > \frac{1}{x+1}, \, x>0[/tex]
 
forgot to say that derivatives aren't allowed, or at least haven't yet been covered, this problem is from here:
http://www.maths.mq.edu.au/~wchen/lnfafolder/fa02-sl.pdf
page 14, the last problem.
 
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loop quantum gravity said:
i need to prove that the sequence is increasing, i.e, x_n+1>=x_n
which translates into:
[(n+2)/(n+1)]^(n+1)>=[(n+1)/n]^n

i tried through induction but got stumbled:
n=k
[(k+2)/(k+1)]^(k+1)>= [(k+1)/k]^k

n=k+1
[(k+3)/(k+2)]^(k+2)>=[(k+2)/(k+1)]^(k+1)
now i need to prove the last inequality, and got baffled.
any help is appreciated, perhaps induction isn't the right way?

p.s
i know this sequence converges to e, so spare me the trivial details about this sequence.
thanks in advance.

Try with induction by blocks (blocks of 2^k).
 
Or I think you can also expand the terms out, something like:
[tex]x_n = \left( 1 + \frac{1}{n} \right) ^ n[/tex]
So:
[tex]x_n = 1 + n \times \frac{1}{n} + \frac{n (n - 1)}{2!} \times \frac{1}{n ^ 2} + \frac{n (n - 1) (n - 2)}{3!} \times \frac{1}{n ^ 3} + ... + \frac{n (n - 1) (n - 2) ... (n - (n - 1))}{n!} \times \frac{1}{n ^ n}[/tex]
[tex]= 1 + 1 + \frac{1}{2!} \times \frac{n}{n} \times \frac{n - 1}{n} + \frac{1}{3!} \times \frac{n}{n} \times \frac{n - 1}{n} \times \frac{n - 2}{n} + ... + \frac{1}{n!} \times \frac{n}{n} \times \frac{n - 1}{n} \times \frac{n - 2}{n} \times ... \times \times \frac{n - (n - 1)}{n}[/tex]
[tex]= 1 + 1 + \frac{1}{2!} \times \left( 1 - \frac{1}{n} \right) + \frac{1}{3!} \times \left( 1 - \frac{1}{n} \right) \times \left( 1 - \frac{2}{n} \right) + ... + \frac{1}{n!} \times \left(1 - \frac{1}{n} \right) \times \left(1 - \frac{2}{n} \right) \times ... \times \left(1 - \frac{n - 1}{n} \right)[/tex]
You can do the same and come up with:
[tex]x_{n + 1} = 1 + 1 + \frac{1}{2!} \times \left( 1 - \frac{1}{n + 1} \right) + \frac{1}{3!} \times \left( 1 - \frac{1}{n + 1} \right) \times \left( 1 - \frac{2}{n + 1} \right) + ... + \frac{1}{(n + 1)!} \times \left(1 - \frac{1}{n + 1} \right) \times[/tex]
[tex]\times \left(1 - \frac{2}{n + 1} \right) \times ... \times \left(1 - \frac{n}{n + 1} \right)[/tex]
So can you say that xn + 1 > xn?
Viet Dao,
 
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vietdao, from this expansion the inequality does follow.
but the question how did you arrive to it?
have you used Newton's binomial?
 
Binomial Theorem: (can be proved inductively)

[tex](a+b)^n=\sum_{i=0}^n \frac{n!}{i! (n-i)!}a^ib^{n-i}[/tex]

here a=1, b=1/n
 
well thank you all, i should have thought of Newton's binomial.
 

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