Gauss' Law and magnitude of the electric field

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The discussion revolves around applying Gauss' Law to determine the electric field generated by a long, nonconducting, solid cylinder with a nonuniform volume charge density that varies with the radial distance from the axis. The specific problem involves calculating the electric field at two different radial distances from the cylinder's axis.

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  • Participants discuss the application of Gauss' Law and the calculation of enclosed charge, noting that the charge density is a function of radius, which complicates the calculations. There are attempts to clarify the integration process needed to find the enclosed charge accurately.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the correct approach to calculating the enclosed charge by suggesting integration over the volume. There is ongoing exploration of the implications of the charge density's dependence on radius, and participants are working through the implications of their calculations.

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Participants are addressing the complexity introduced by the nonuniform charge density and the need for integration to accurately determine the electric field. There is an acknowledgment of potential errors in previous calculations, but no consensus has been reached on the final answers.

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A long, nonconducting, solid cylinder of radius 4.5 cm has a nonuniform volume charge density that is a function of the radial distance r from the axis of the cylinder, as given by [tex]\rho = A r^2[/tex], with [tex]A = 3.0 \mbox{ }\mu C/\mbox{m}^5[/tex].

(a) What is the magnitude of the electric field at a radial distance of 3.5 cm from the axis of the cylinder?

Gauss' Law:

[tex]\Phi _{\mbox{Net}} = \oint \vec{E} \cdot d\vec{S} = \int _{\mbox{Sides}} \vec{E} \cdot d\vec{S} = ES =\frac{Q_{\mbox{Enc}}}{\epsilon _0}[/tex]

Let a = 3.5 cm. Then:

[tex]E\left( 2\pi a L \right)=\frac{\rho \left( \pi a^ 2 L \right)}{\epsilon _0} \Longrightarrow E = \frac{\rho a}{2\epsilon _0} = \frac{Aa^ 3}{2\epsilon _0} \approx 7.3 \mbox{ } \frac{N}{C}[/tex]

This is wrong, but I don't know where.

(b) What is the magnitude of the electric field at a radial distance of 5.5 cm from the axis of the cylinder?

Gauss' Law:

Let b = 5.5 cm. Then:

[tex]\Phi _{\mbox{Net}} = \oint \vec{E} \cdot d\vec{S} = \int _{\mbox{Sides}} \vec{E} \cdot d\vec{S} = ES =\frac{Q_{\mbox{Enc}}}{\epsilon _0}[/tex]

[tex]E\left( 2\pi b L \right)=\frac{\rho \left( \pi R^ 2 L \right)}{\epsilon _0} \Longrightarrow E = \frac{\rho R^2}{2b\epsilon _0} = \frac{AR^ 4}{2b\epsilon _0} \approx 1.3 \times 10 \mbox{ } \frac{N}{C}[/tex]

This is wrong, but I don't know where.

Any help is highly appreciated
 
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Dear thiago_j

I think the way you apply Gauss' Law in general is correct. The one thing that is wrong for sure is your calculation of the enclosed charge.
As you mentioned the charge density is a function of the radius. In your calculations you ignore this. You just take the volume (with radius a) and act as if the whole cylinder had the density it has at radius a, which is not the case (as you stated).
So, in order to calculate the charge enclosed you need to integrate!
Some hints on how to do this: In general, proceed as you always do with integration. Take a certain radius r, calculate the volume of the hollow cylinder with radii r and r+dr and calculate the charge on this infinitesimal hollow cylinder. Then do the integration over the whole volume needed.

I hope it was useful.
Best regards...Cliowa
 
thiago_j said:
[tex]E\left( 2\pi a L \right)=\frac{\rho \left( \pi a^ 2 L \right)}{\epsilon _0} \Longrightarrow E = \frac{\rho a}{2\epsilon _0} = \frac{Aa^ 3}{2\epsilon _0} \approx 7.3 \mbox{ } \frac{N}{C}[/tex]

[tex]Q_{\mbox{Enc}}[/tex] is not [tex]\rho \left( \pi a^ 2 L \right)[/tex]

it is

[tex]\int_0^r \ ( Ar^2 )2 \pi r dr L[/tex]
 
How about now?

(a) What is the magnitude of the electric field at a radial distance of 3.5 cm from the axis of the cylinder?

Gauss' Law:

[tex]\Phi _{\mbox{Net}} = \oint \vec{E} \cdot d\vec{S} = \int _{\mbox{Sides}} \vec{E} \cdot d\vec{S} = ES =\frac{Q_{\mbox{Enc}}}{\epsilon _0}[/tex]

Let a = 3.5 cm. Then:

[tex]{Q_{\mbox{Enc}} = \int _0 ^a \left( Ar^2 \right) 2\pi r L \: dr = 2\pi LA \int _0 ^a r^3 \: dr = \frac{\pi LA a^ 4}{2}[/tex]

and so

[tex]E\left( 2\pi a L \right)= \frac{\pi LA a^ 4}{2\epsilon _0} \Longrightarrow E = \frac{A a^3}{4\epsilon _0} \approx 3.6 \mbox{ } \frac{N}{C}[/tex]

(b) What is the magnitude of the electric field at a radial distance of 5.5 cm from the axis of the cylinder?

Gauss' Law:

[tex]\Phi _{\mbox{Net}} = \oint \vec{E} \cdot d\vec{S} = \int _{\mbox{Sides}} \vec{E} \cdot d\vec{S} = ES =\frac{Q_{\mbox{Enc}}}{\epsilon _0}[/tex]

Let b = 5.5 cm and R = 4.5 cm. Then:

[tex]{Q_{\mbox{Enc}} = \int _0 ^R \left( Ar^2 \right) 2\pi r L \: dr = 2\pi LA \int _0 ^R r^3 \: dr = \frac{\pi LA R^ 4}{2}[/tex]

and so

[tex]E\left( 2\pi b L \right)= \frac{\pi LA R^ 4}{2\epsilon _0} \Longrightarrow E = \frac{A R^4}{4b\epsilon _0} \approx 6.3 \mbox{ } \frac{N}{C}[/tex]
 
Appears correct.
 

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