Can You Extract Electricity from a Fluorescent Light Bulb? Find Out Here!

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the feasibility of extracting electricity from fluorescent light bulbs using induction methods, particularly involving Tesla coils. Participants explore theoretical applications, practical implications, and the efficiency of such systems.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the understanding of "induction" in relation to fluorescent bulbs and seek clarification on the intended outcome of the proposed method.
  • One participant suggests that fluorescent tubes can be charged when in proximity to a Tesla coil, proposing that the pulse from the coil could enable the desired effect.
  • A participant discusses the concept of using a Tesla coil as the primary coil in an induction lamp system, referencing modern induction technology.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the practicality of the scheme, arguing that inefficiencies would lead to greater electricity consumption than simply connecting the lamps directly.
  • Some participants propose using a larger Tesla coil to increase energy output, while others caution that larger coils may not significantly reduce energy losses.
  • One participant outlines a vision of creating a massive magnetic field around the Earth powered by a Tesla coil, suggesting it could provide free power globally, though this idea is challenged as not truly being "free."
  • There is a request for clarification on whether the proposed system could work on a small scale, such as in households or apartment complexes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of ideas and skepticism regarding the feasibility and efficiency of the proposed methods. No consensus is reached on whether the system could effectively work on any scale.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight various assumptions about efficiency, energy loss, and the nature of power generation, but these remain unresolved within the discussion.

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Is it possible to induct electricty out of a florescent light bulb?
 
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A nice idea, but I don't think anyone understands what you are asking. It appears that you misunderstand what "induction" means. Furthermore, flourescent tubes are not "charged." What, specifically, is the desired result of the scheme you are thinking of?
 
They are charged if you bring them in proximity of a tesla coil. In fact I think the so called pulse from a tesla coil would give the desired effect needed to make it work.
 
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my research

modern day technology has given us induction lamps that work off the same principles as the modern day tranformer. what I am proposing is using a tesla coil as the primary coil on the induction lamp and than from a distance, feeding energy from the induction lamp with a secondary coil.

for more info on induction lamps goto:
http://www.emsd.gov.hk/emsd/e_download/pee/Induction%20lamps%20at%20kbigh.pdf
http://www.gelighting.com/eu/institute/firstlight/module07/01.html
http://oikos.com/esb/36/Genura.html
http://www.lamptech.co.uk/Spec Sheets/Osram Endura.htm
 

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I think it would probably work, but it wouldn't accomplish anything. Losses due to inefficiency in this scheme would make it use more electricity than just wiring the two lamps together.
 
so just use a biger tesla coil and pump more energy threw it. and also think of the energy that you loose to passing electricty therw power lines. last time i checked its a lot.
 
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so just use a biger tesla coil and pump more energy threw it.
A bigger coil will likely lose the same fraction as a smaller one.
and also think of the energy that you loose to passing electricty therw power lines. last time i checked its a lot.
For short lengths of wire, the losses are too small to measure. For the transmisson from the plant to your house (just an fyi, not relevant here), the loss averages about 7%. For a Tesla coil, I'd suspect you're going to lose 99%+. As I recall, they are an extrordinarily inefficient way to transmit power.

And just to be clear here, you do understand that transmission is all you're proposing here, right? You would not be recovering wasted energy or anything like that. Sucking power from the magnetic field around a light would increase the electrical consumption of that light.
 
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the whole idea here is the create a massive magnetic field around the Earth streaching from the north to south poles that is powered by a massive tesla coil. now the so called magnetic pulse from the tesla coil would charge the induction lamps in such a way that you could draw alternating current directly from the induction lamps allowing free power to incompase the globe allowing even people in the poorest of countrys to have free power regardless of distance or location. does that make more sense?
 
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It makes sense, but it isn't free power. Someone has to pay to generate it.
 
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too true, but my whole little question is weather or not it would work on a large or even a small scale aka like in a house hold, or for an apartment complex.
 

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