Is e^x the Optimal Integrating Factor for Solving Differential Equations?

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The discussion revolves around finding an integrating factor for the differential equation sin(y)dx + cos(y)dy = 0. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the requirement for the integrating factor to be e^x, despite their own findings suggesting a different form.

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  • Participants explore the nature of the equation, with some questioning the original poster's interpretation and others suggesting alternative integrating factors. There is a discussion about the uniqueness of integrating factors and the implications of the problem statement.

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The conversation is active, with participants offering various perspectives on the integrating factor issue. Some suggest verifying the exactness of the equation after applying different integrating factors, while others highlight the potential for multiple valid approaches.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the original equation due to a typographical error, which has been acknowledged by the original poster. The requirement to show that e^x is an integrating factor is also under scrutiny.

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for the question, siny+cosydy=0, i want to find an integrating factor.
my work:
(1/F)(dF/dx)=(1/cosy)(cosy+siny)=1+tany
=>lny=x +xtany +c`
=> y =ce^(x+xtany)
however, the question wants the integrating factor to be e^x...
why?
 
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Can I assume you mean sinydx+ cosydy= 0? Without a dx in there, it doesn't make sense. If that's the case, then an obvious integrating factor is 1/siny since multiplying through by that gives dx+ (cosx/sinx)dy= 0 which is clearly exact.

I don't know what you mean by "the question wants the integrating factor to be e^x"!
I wasn't aware that questions wanted anything!
 
Isn't that equation seperable?
 
opps! I'm sorry for the mistype! :P
you're right, it's "sinydx+ cosydy= 0"
that question wanted to prove that the integrating factor is e^x, but the integrating factor that i found was y =ce^(x+xtany)...
 
so you want an integrating factor u such that
[tex]\frac{\partial}{\partial y}u\sin(y)=\frac{\partial}{\partial x}u\cos(y)[/tex]
or
[tex]\frac{\partial u}{\partial y}\sin(y)+u\cos(y)=\frac{\partial u}{\partial x}\cos(y)[/tex]
integrating factors are not unique so assume
[tex]\frac{\partial u}{\partial y}=0[/tex]
 
If the problem says "show that ex is an integrating factor", thenyou don't have to find the integrating factor yourself (as lurflurf said, integrating factors are not unique), just multiply the equation by ex and see if the result is exact.

If you got ce^(x+xtany) as an integrating factor, you sure like doing things the hard way! As I said earlier, 1/sin y is an obvious integrating factor (because, as Corneo said, the equation is separable. Multiplying by
1/sin y "separates" it)
 
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lol...
i didn't think of that...
thank you very much! :)
 

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