Need explanation on part of induction equation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the application of Faraday's law of electromagnetic induction in the context of a personal project involving a DC induction coil. Participants seek clarification on specific components of the induction equation, particularly regarding the area of the coil and the time variable in relation to magnetic flux changes.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether "A" in the equation refers to the entire area of the coil or just the area occupied by the coil wire, considering the air core.
  • Another participant asserts that "A" refers to the entire area of the coil and explains that ∆t pertains to the time taken for the magnetic flux to change by ∆B.
  • A participant seeks clarification on whether ∆t corresponds to the time required for half a rotation of the mechanism when considering changes in magnetic field strength.
  • One participant confirms that ∆B should be calculated based on the direction of the magnetic fields involved, indicating that the difference could be 5.5 Tesla if the fields are not aligned in the same direction.
  • A follow-up question is posed regarding the interpretation of "in the same direction" concerning the movement of the magnetic field and its consistency during rotation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing interpretations regarding the definition of "A" and the calculation of ∆B, indicating that multiple competing views remain on these aspects of the induction equation.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of terms in the equation and the conditions under which the magnetic fields are considered to be in the same direction. The discussion does not reach a consensus on these points.

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As part of a personal garage tinkering project, I am utilizing the equation (Faraday's?) to figure the voltage output of a DC induction coil (magnetic induction generator) with an air core and I have some questions about the equation: ∑ = -N{(∆B*A) / ∆t}.

Where "A" is the area of the coil, does the equation refer to the entire area of the coil or the entire area minus the area of the air core (which would leave just the area occupied by the coil wire)?

Also, am I correct in understanding that "∆t" refers to the length time for one full cycle from North to South and back to North?

I have been trying to teach myself the physics involved in this spare time project and I want to make sure I understand the math correctly. I would appreciate any assist or explanation that anyone could give. Thanks in advance.
 
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The "A" refers to the entire area of the coil. As for [itex]\Delta t[/itex], this refers to the time it takes for the magnetic flux to change by [itex]\Delta B[/itex]. So if the field changes by 8 Tesla every 2 seconds then [itex]\frac{\Delta B}{\Delta t}=4T/s[/itex].
 
Thank you for your help. Please clarify; if the difference between N and S is .5 Tesla (N=3T & S= 2.5T) and 1 complete rotation of the mechanism will result in a North to South change of -.5 Tesla followed by a South to North change of .5 Tesla, then do I understand correctly that ∆t would be the time required for 1/2 rotation?
 
Yes, as long as the 3 and the 2.5 are in the same direction, otherwise [itex]\Delta B[/itex] is [itex]3-(-2.5)=5.5T[/itex]
 
LeonhardEuler said:
Yes, as long as the 3 and the 2.5 are in the same direction, otherwise [itex]\Delta B[/itex] is [itex]3-(-2.5)=5.5T[/itex]

When you say "in the same direction", I am understanding that you are referring to the movement of the magnetic field as being constant in one direction (i.e.) spinning clockwise and that the direction of the movement of the magnetic field does not change, i.e. flip-flopping clockwise/counter-clockwise?
 

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