Solving Integral of (u-2)/sqrt(u^2+1) du - Help!

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The discussion revolves around solving the integral of (u-2)/sqrt(u^2+1) du, with participants exploring various substitution methods and integral properties. There is also a secondary question regarding the expression cot^3(tan^-1(x)).

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  • Participants discuss the potential for trigonometric substitution due to the presence of sqrt(u^2+1). Some suggest splitting the integral into two simpler parts for easier handling. Others express confusion regarding multiple substitutions and seek clarification on related expressions.

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Several participants have offered insights on how to approach the integral, including breaking it into two parts and considering trigonometric substitutions. There is an ongoing exchange of ideas, with some participants confirming their understanding while others continue to seek guidance on related integrals.

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Participants are navigating through multiple steps of substitution and integration, with some expressing difficulty in managing the complexity of the problems. There is also a mention of a separate integral involving cotangent and cosecant functions, indicating a broader exploration of integration techniques.

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Ok so after a substituion I have this: (I don't know how to proceed)

"integral of" (u-2) / sqrt(u^2 + 1) du

and by the way, can someone tell me what cot^3(tan^-1(x)) equals?

Thanks!
 
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sqrt(u^2+1) just screams for a trig substitution.
 
Bah, I see it. I easily get confused when having to substitution i several steps :P

Thanks
 
Well, it may be a bit easier if you split at first.

[tex]\int {\frac{{u - 2}}{{\sqrt {u^2 + 1} }}du} = \int {\frac{u}{{\sqrt {u^2 + 1} }}du} - \int {\frac{2}{{\sqrt {u^2 + 1} }}du}[/tex]

So the first one gives

[tex]\int {\frac{u}{{\sqrt {u^2 + 1} }}du} = \frac{1}{2}\int {\frac{{d\left( {u^2 + 1} \right)}}{{\sqrt {u^2 + 1} }}}[/tex]

Which is easy to integrate, without a trig subst.
Then of course, still the second part :smile:
 
You might want to break it up into 2 integrals. The first one is very straightforward, the second one is easy with a trig substitution as tmc suggested.

EDIT: near simultaneous post w/ TD
 
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Ok, thanks. I have that one now.

Can you please hint me with one more:
I have the integral of (sqrt(1-x^2)) / x^4 dx

Which with trig.subs leads to:
integral of cot^2(y) *csc^2(y) dy

Again I'm stuck :P
 
Correct, but remember that

[tex]\left( {\cot x} \right)^\prime = - \csc ^2 x[/tex]

:smile:
 

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