Is a black hole a superconducter?

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The discussion centers around the concept of whether a black hole can be considered a superconductor. Participants explore various aspects of superconductivity, black hole properties, and theoretical implications, including the behavior of particles in extreme gravitational fields.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that a black hole could be superconducting due to its properties, although the reasoning is not universally accepted.
  • A participant argues that a superconductor allows unimpeded electron flow, which contradicts the nature of black holes that prevent electrons from escaping.
  • There are claims that both superconductors and black holes appear black, and that superconductors conduct better at low temperatures, paralleling some properties attributed to black holes.
  • Speculative ideas are presented, such as the possibility of a black hole bombarded with electrons forming a pulsing particle cloud.
  • Participants express confusion and disagreement over the definitions and properties of superconductors and black holes, with some asserting that certain statements are incorrect or nonsensical.
  • There are discussions about the relationship between temperature and mass in black holes, referencing Hawking's relation, though the implications remain debated.
  • Some participants challenge the relevance of certain claims and the understanding of superconductors, particularly regarding their material composition.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit significant disagreement regarding the properties and implications of black holes and superconductors. No consensus is reached, and various competing views are presented throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants express differing levels of understanding about superconductors and black holes, leading to confusion and contention. Some statements rely on assumptions that are not universally accepted, and the discussion includes unresolved technical claims.

QuantumNet
Is a black hole a superconductor?

I am starting this thread because of that
i find it lightly that a black hole can be superconducting.
I will be away from PhysicsForums for a while,
so I'll just let you read and wright here.

Best wishes.
 
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A superconductor is a substance in which the flow of electrons is almost completely unimpeded. A large gravitational field that does not allow electrons out would certainly impede the flow of electrons.

Maybe you mean a perfect ground?
 
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Originally posted by russ_watters
Maybe you mean a perfect ground?

Superconductors seems to be black.

Black holes are also black.

Superconductors conducts better att low temperatures.

Black holes attract all masses (including charges) quicker at low temperatures.

What if a black hole bombarded with electrones becomes a pulsing particle cloud?


What if a neutrone has a small positive charge, and the electrone-charge equalls the protonecharge plus the neutronecharge?

That's ofcourse another theory.

What if the weak force is a direct effect of my gravitytheory?
 
Originally posted by QuantumNet
Superconductors seems to be black.
They do?
Black holes attract all masses (including charges) quicker at low temperatures.
No.

Most of the rest of your post is gibberish. Sorry.
 
Superconductors seems to be black.

Black holes are also black.

Ceramic superconductors are black in appearence. Nobium and titanium (plus a whole lot of others) are metals and are metallic in appearance...even when they are a superconductor.

Superconductors conducts better att low temperatures.

Black holes attract all masses (including charges) quicker at low temperatures.

Who told you this? It's more wrong than you can imagine.

What if a black hole bombarded with electrones becomes a pulsing particle cloud?

What?

What if a neutrone has a small positive charge, and the electrone-charge equalls the protonecharge plus the neutronecharge?

What's wrong with this picture? Neutron = neutral charge = no charge
AND an electron charge is negative so a positive PLUS a positive charge equals...wait for it...a POSITIVE CHARGE!

That's ofcourse another theory.

Not really a theory. I've heard better physics from a 6th grade class.

What if the weak force is a direct effect of my gravitytheory?

The weak force deals with decay. And I don't know what your theory is but I doubt I want to really.
 
In your theory the following isotype is posible:

NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN + P + e

of hydrogen.

2.**** you

3The colder a black hole is, the more it weighs
(hawkings relation between temperature and mass)

This can be read. TH = hc3/(16(pi)2kGM)

If it weighs more, it's gravity field grows stronger. I hope you understand that.

4.If you are going to continue lying, I recommend you to stop posting.



5.The weak force deals with decay. Explain...
I already know it is, so why did you drop this bomb?!

Neutroncount, A pulsing cloud is a very interesting phenomenon.
A massive object that pulses. This can also be read about.

So some metals don't absorb visible light. Big difference.

Why do they only reply to more or less unreal posts?

I wouldn't want to meet you if i had to, although,
best wishes (still).
 
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Originally posted by QuantumNet
In your theory the following isotype is posible:

NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN + P + e

of hydrogen.

2.**** you

3The colder a black hole is, the more it weighs
(hawkings relation between temperature and mass)

This can be read. TH = hc3/(16(pi)2kGM)

If it weighs more, it's gravity field grows stronger. I hope you understand that.

4.If you are going to continue lying, I recommend you to stop posting.



5.The weak force deals with decay. Explain...
I already know it is, so why did you drop this bomb?!

Neutroncount, A pulsing cloud is a very interesting phenomenon.
A massive object that pulses. This can also be read about.

So some metals don't absorb visible light. Big difference.

Why do they only reply to more or less unreal posts?

I wouldn't want to meet you if i had to, although,
best wishes (still).


Jackass.

First of all there is a gravitational gradiant difference between smaller and larger black holes. Just because a black hole is bigger doesn't mean that things are sucked into it any faster. Its mass influences how much reach it has over a certain distance. And its temperature is dependent on its mass not the other way around. And what does pulsing stellar molecular clouds have to do with superconductors? Also, do you even know what a ceramic superconductor is? It's a blend of rare Earth ceramics. It's not even a metal. Nobium is a pure metal and can superconduct on its own.

If you want to sound smart don't act like a dumbass.
 
Originally posted by neutroncount


If you want to sound smart don't act like a dumbass.

You dumb *******, neither did i sound nor act; I wrote.

You are a vandalist, destroying this forum.

I did write that some superconducters might be absolute reflectants also. ofcourse i knew that some metalls superconduct at low temperatures. What are you, a first grader?

Since index is very high on the surface of a black hole, no particle can get into it. (this does not forbid that there are particles inside it).

Do you know what a metall is. Have you actually seen a metall?

I did not ****ing state that cheramical conducters are metalls;
read again you religious

(Let me give you an example:
"Fuc king state? yes! you stated that Fuc was king!")

*******, dumbass fuxor.


so do go **** yourself.

best wishes
 
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Originally posted by QuantumNet
You dumb *******...

...anyway, go **** yourself
Your attitude needs to change or you won't be here very long.

And neutroncount - no need to feed the trolls.
 
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Originally posted by russ_watters
Your attitude needs to change or you won't be here very long.

And neutroncount - no need to feed the trolls.

Russ_waters. I'm sorry, once when I wrote to you i thought you were that son of a ***** neutroncount. now i realize that you almost are.

You see, In my country, troll, is an insult. mostly used by Nazi-*******s, satanists etc. who believe in such creatures.
 

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