How Does the Size of an Eclipsing Planet Affect Star Brightness?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on how the size of a planet that eclipses a star influences the brightness of the star as perceived from a distance. It explores theoretical aspects of light and shadow, particularly in the context of eclipses, and includes considerations of limb darkening and the geometry involved in such events.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks how the size of a planet affects the brightness of a star during an eclipse.
  • Another participant draws an analogy to the Moon eclipsing the Sun to illustrate the concept.
  • A participant describes the star as a disk of light and the planet as a disk of darkness, suggesting that the brightness can be analyzed by subtracting the area of the planet from that of the star.
  • It is noted that limb darkening complicates the relationship between the area and brightness, leading to a rise, peak, and decline in brightness during an eclipse.
  • A participant questions whether brightness is directly proportional to the apparent area, expressing uncertainty about the relationship.
  • Another participant responds that brightness is roughly proportional to the visible fraction of the surface area, while acknowledging that limb darkening introduces additional complexity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying degrees of understanding and uncertainty regarding the relationship between the size of the eclipsing planet and the resulting brightness of the star. There is no consensus on the exact nature of this relationship, particularly concerning the effects of limb darkening.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the geometry of light and shadow, as well as the effects of limb darkening, which are not fully resolved. The relationship between apparent area and brightness remains somewhat ambiguous.

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how does the size of planet eclipsing a star effect the brightness of the star?
thanks.
 
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think about when the moon gets in the way of the sun.
 
Picture the star as a disk of light. And the planet, as a disk of darkness.

Subtract the area of the planet's disk from the area of the star's disk to compare eclipse / non-eclipse brightness. Limb darkening complicates it a bit, so you'll see a rise, a sharp peak and a decline. (Area = pi r^2)

This is a bit different than an eclipse of the Sun by the Moon. Both Sun and Moon are close enough to affect the ratio of their actual sizes and their appearant sizes. But at their distances, the ratio of their actual sizes and their appearant sizes is very, very close to 1. A star and its planet can be treated as if at an infinite perspective.
 
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right, but is brightness directly proportional to the apparent area we see? probably a stupid question, but thanks
 
skiboka33 said:
right, but is brightness directly proportional to the apparent area we see?
Roughly proportional to the visible fraction of the surface area, yes. There are effects like limb darkening that complicate the picture a bit, but for the most part, eclipses can be modeled as simply as this.
 

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