What is the Optimal Solution for a Wire Length Minimization Problem?

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The discussion revolves around an optimization problem related to minimizing the length of a wire, involving geometric considerations such as triangles and line segments. The original poster is attempting to formulate the problem mathematically, focusing on the relationship between variables in the context of the wire's length.

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  • The original poster presents an equation for the length of the wire and seeks guidance on how to proceed with the optimization. Some participants suggest considering derivatives and clarify that certain variables are constants, while others express interest in the mathematical writing and reasoning behind the solution.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing hints and clarifications regarding the optimization process. There is an emphasis on improving mathematical writing and understanding the relationship between the variables involved in the problem.

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Participants note that the variables x and h are constants, while y is the variable to be optimized. The original poster is looking for minimal guidance rather than a complete solution.

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I am having trouble setting up the primary equation to this optimization problem.

Here is a link to the problem
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/806/appliedminmaxprob5vo.jpg"

Here is the best equation I can come up with but this leads me nowhere...

The hypotenuse of the each triangle: sqrt(x^2+y^2)
The length of the line from (0,h) to (0,y): h-y

let L be the length of the wire needed then

L = 2sqrt(x^2+y^2)+h-y

2sqrt(x^2+y^2) for the two hypotenuses of the triangles
h-y for the small line segment from point (0,h) to (0,y)

Where can I go from here? I'm only looking for a small hint to get me going in the right direction... Thanks
 
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Looks good so far. The clue for the next step is in the question, which is to find y such that the length of power line is minimized. Hint: a derivative is involved.
 
Remember that x and h are given constants. It is only y that is a variable. Your answer will depend on x and h.
 
Here is my final solution so far...
It's 5 pages but I tried to explain what I was doing in detail :)
Please comment on my mathematical writing as well as my solution.
I really want to improve my mathematical writing.
Thanks

http://img434.imageshack.us/img434/6807/solutionpart16fp.jpg"

http://img434.imageshack.us/img434/9853/solutionpart26xc.jpg"

http://img434.imageshack.us/img434/4665/solutionpart39cr.jpg"

http://img434.imageshack.us/img434/2691/solutionpart41om.jpg"

http://img434.imageshack.us/img434/1182/solutionpart56qq.jpg"



/math rocks
//off to watch The Daily Show
////why am i doing this
/////I read to much fark.com
 
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