Bounded Function on Closed Interval: Proving Boundedness

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The discussion revolves around proving the boundedness of a function defined on a closed interval [a,b], given that for every point in the interval, there exists a neighborhood where the function is bounded. Participants are exploring the implications of this condition and questioning the clarity of the original problem statement.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to clarify the original problem statement and its implications, with some questioning whether the function being bounded in neighborhoods implies boundedness on the entire interval. Others are exploring the contradiction approach by assuming the function is unbounded and discussing the consequences of that assumption.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and suggestions for approaching the proof. Some have proposed using the Bolzano-Weierstrass theorem as a potential method for establishing boundedness, while others are still exploring the implications of the original conditions.

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There are concerns regarding the clarity of the problem statement as it was copied from a handwritten assignment, which may have led to misunderstandings about the conditions of the function's boundedness.

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If f is defined on [a,b] and for every x in [a,b] there is a d_x such that if is bounded on [x-d_x, x+d_x]. Prove that f is bounded on [a,b].

This question seems very odd. If every point, and indeed the neighbourhood of every point is bounded, then of course the function itself must be bounded. Of course I doubt this can be passed as a proof, so any suggestions would be helpful.
 
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The statement "[x-d_x, x+d_x] is bounded" is a tautology. Is it meant to say f is bounded on [x-d_x, x+d_x]?
 
Yes, I believe so. I've made the modification but on the question sheet it was written exactly as I had copied it. My professor has a habit of handing out handwritten assignments.
 
Suppose that f was not bounded on [a,b]. Then there must exist a point c in [a,b] such that f(c) > M for all real M.

Does that sound like the right beginning?

Proceed to show a contradiction with boundedness on [x-d_x,x+d_x] for all x in [a,b].
 
If every point, and indeed the neighbourhood of every point is bounded, then of course the function itself must be bounded.

Consider 1/x on (0, 1) then.

If we assume that all d_x are strictly greater than 0, then I believe you can use the compactness of [a, b] to solve this problem.
 
Muzza said:
Consider 1/x on (0, 1) then.

The interval must be closed.
 
The interval must be closed.

You missed my point. I was objecting to your implication that the statement was rather trivial (or obvious) just because the function was bounded on every neighbourhood in its domain.
 
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True. However, I have found a proof using Bolzano-Weierstrass theorem. Thanks for the inputs.
 
Icebreaker said:
True. However, I have found a proof using Bolzano-Weierstrass theorem. Thanks for the inputs.
When you have a chance can you post a sketch of that proof?
 
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This will be sketchy, but the proof itself is not mine:

Assume the contrary, that f is unbounded. By Weierstrass, we can find a sequence x_n that converges to some number c in I = [a,b] and f(x_n)>n for every n. For this c, let d_c be as in the hypothesis. Then, for n large enough, x_n is in (c-d_c, c+d_c). This contradicts our hypothesis that f is bounded on (c-d_c, c+d_c).
 

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