Is This Piecewise Function Riemann Integrable?

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The discussion revolves around the Riemann integrability of a piecewise function defined on intervals, specifically examining the function f(x) which takes on different constant values in specified ranges. The original poster, Lizzie, connects this function to a converging series and seeks to understand the relationship between the function and the series in terms of integrability.

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  • Participants explore the conditions for Riemann integrability, questioning how to prove it and the relevance of the series to the function's integrability. There is a focus on clarifying the function's definition and its implications for integration.

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Some participants assert that the function is Riemann integrable, while others seek clarification on the connection to the series. The conversation reflects a mix of interpretations regarding the function's properties and the nature of the integral being discussed.

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There is an ongoing discussion about the proper definition of the function and the implications of its piecewise nature. Participants are also considering the limits of integration and the conditions under which the improper integral exists.

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let f(x) = 1 when x in in [0,1)
f(x) = -1/2 when x is in [1,2)
f(x) = 1/3 when x is in [2, 3)

and so on, in othe words its the sequence (1/n)(-1)^n, whose series obviously converges to log 2. However is f(x) Riemann integrable and equal to this series?
If so, how to give an upper sum lower sum proof?, just choose a good partion?

thanks,

Lizzie
 
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that function is riemann integrable but I'm not sure what it has to do with that sequence/series?
 
Ok, but how to prove it?

It has to do with that sequence because on each interval [n, n+1) it is equal to (1/n+1)(-1)^n.
 
Lizzie11 said:
Ok, but how to prove it?
It has to do with that sequence because on each interval [n, n+1) it is equal to (1/n+1)(-1)^n.


Perhaps it would help if you clarified what your function is. In your original post you had
"let f(x) = 1 when x in in [0,1)
f(x) = -1/2 when x is in [1,2)
f(x) = 1/3 when x is in [2, 3)"

Which is a piecewise constant function that has trivially integrable. Yes, it is equal to (-1)^n/(n+1) on the interval [n,n+1) but what does that have to do with the series 1- 1/2+ 1/3+...

Ah, wait- you aren't asking whether the function is Riemann integrable- you are asking whether the definite integral from 0 to infinity exists! I think you've answered your own question. The improper integral [tex]\int_0^\infty f(x)dx[/tex] exists if and only if the limit [tex]lim_{A->0}\int_0^A f(x) dx[/tex] exists.

With f as you give it, [tex]\int_0^A f(x)dx= \Sigma_{i=1}^{N}\frac{(-1)^i}{i+1}[/tex] where N is the largest integer less than or equal to A and, as you say, that series converges to log 2.
 
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