Thomas Nast & the Collapse of the Tweed Ring

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the role of Thomas Nast's cartoons in the collapse of the Tweed ring during the Gilded Age in America. Participants explore the influence of Nast's work on public opinion and the historical context surrounding this issue, with references to literature and personal research on the topic.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that Thomas Nast's cartoons played a significant role in shifting public opinion against the Tweed ring, while others suggest that figures like Samuel Tilden and the New York Times had a greater impact.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the degree of Nast's influence, citing limited familiarity with the period and its literature.
  • Another participant recommends Kenneth Ackerman's book "Boss Tweed" as a valuable resource for understanding the time period and the dynamics of the Tweed ring.
  • A participant mentions their ongoing thesis on Thomas Nast, indicating a desire to contribute to the discussion with their findings.
  • There is a mention of the mixed reception of Nast among current historians, with some expressing negative views while a few support his contributions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the extent of Nast's influence, with multiple competing views presented regarding the factors that contributed to the collapse of the Tweed ring.

Contextual Notes

Some participants acknowledge their limited knowledge of the Gilded Age and the specifics of Nast's work, which may affect their contributions to the discussion.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those studying American history, political cartoons, or the Gilded Age, as well as individuals researching the impact of media on public opinion.

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It is a controversial issue of whether or not Thomas Nast's cartoons lead to the collapse of the Tweed ring. Some view him as a rasist and that the Times and Samuel Tilden did more, but others feel that he was able to effectively shift the opinion of the general population. I would like to see if there are any of your opinions on this subject. Most likely you are not going to understand any of this unless you have read into New York's history in depth.
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Hmmm. I thought that would be the case. Has anyone read books set in the gilded age of America? The most recently written book on particularly Tweed was a book by Keneth Akerman, titled 'Boss Tweed.' Has anyone read it?
-Scott
 
I am slightly and vaguely familiar with the period froma having read excerpts of Mark Twain's The Gilded Age. I have seen pictures of some of Nast's cartoons, also. None of this is enough to offer an opinion on the degree of Nast's influence in shaping public opinion.
 
Yeah I have discovered that it is a pretty obscure topic. Though I would recommend reading Kenath Ackermans book. It just came out last year and provides a good description of the time period. Too bad all the current historians hate Thomas Nast:cry:. Except for two that I found. I am writing my thesis paper on him right now and I will post it when I am done. Hopefully it will shine some light on this area.
-Scott
 
I have just completed my thesis. I would appreciate it if you pardoned the incomplete parentheticals and bad grammar. All comments are welcomed (even the unwelcome ones).
Thanks,
Scott

View attachment Thomas Nast Paper.doc
 
Here is a better version (shorter and more gramically correct). Nast cartoons can be found at Harpweek. They show a couple good ones he did on Andrew Johnson.
Thanks,
-Scott
View attachment Thomas Nast Paper.doc
http://www.harpweek.com"
 
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