Calculate Double Series: \sum_{i=1}^{\infty} \sum_{j=i}^{\infty} p^(j+i)

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The discussion revolves around the convergence and calculation of a double series defined as \(\sum_{i=1}^{\infty} \sum_{j=i}^{\infty} p^{(j+i)}\). Participants explore the conditions under which this series converges, particularly focusing on the parameter \(p\).

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  • Participants discuss the convergence of the series for different values of \(p\), particularly questioning the implications of \(p\) being between 0 and 1. Some participants attempt to express the series in terms of simpler sums and explore potential patterns in the terms generated.

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The discussion includes various interpretations of the series and its convergence properties. Some participants have provided insights into the mathematical manipulation of the series, while others are still exploring the implications of their findings without reaching a consensus.

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There is an emphasis on the condition \(|p| < 1\) for convergence, and participants are considering the implications of this condition on the series' behavior. Additionally, formatting issues with mathematical expressions have been noted, which may affect clarity in communication.

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Hello, all--
I have the following series that I'm supposed to calculate:

[tex]\sum_{i=1}^{\infty} \sum_{j=i}^{\infty} p^(j+i)[/tex]

Could someone show me how it should be done?

Note: It's supposed to be p^(j+i) or p raised to j+i; however, I can't get the formatting to work.


Anthony
 
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AnthonyS said:
Hello, all--
I have the following series that I'm supposed to calculate:
[tex]\sum_{i=1}^{\infty} \sum_{j=i}^{\infty} p^(j+i)[/tex]
Could someone show me how it should be done?
Note: It's supposed to be p^(j+i) or p raised to j+i; however, I can't get the formatting to work.
Anthony

Here's the formatting:

[tex]\sum_{i=1}^{\infty} \sum_{j=i}^{\infty} p^{(j+i)}[/tex]

Suppose p was between 0 and 1, say 1/2 and we start with i=1. The first member of the set would then be:

[tex]\sum_{j=1}^{\infty}\left(\frac{1}{2}\right)^{1+j}[/tex]

second one, well you know what it it. Third one . . . They converge don't they? Suppose they all converge to numbers less than 1. I don't know but suppose they did and you were able to express the general form of those numbers say:

[tex]s_1=1/2[/tex]

[tex]s_2=1/4[/tex]

[tex]s_3=1/8[/tex]

[tex]s_n=\left(\frac{1}{2}\right)^n[/tex]

Then we could sum them right? Not saying that's what they would be but this is just one way I can think of.
 
The double seires you have presented is convergent only for [itex]\left| p\right| <1[/itex] (p may be real or complex), for these values of p we have:

[tex]\sum_{i=1}^{\infty} \sum_{j=i}^{\infty} p^{j+i} = \sum_{i=1}^{\infty} \left( p^{i} \sum_{j=i}^{\infty} p^{j}\right) = \sum_{i=1}^{\infty} \left( p^{2i} \sum_{j=i}^{\infty} p^{j-i}\right)[/tex]
[tex]=\sum_{i=1}^{\infty} \left( p^{2i} \sum_{j=0}^{\infty} p^{j}\right) = \left( \sum_{i=1}^{\infty} p^{2i}\right) \left( \sum_{j=0}^{\infty} p^{j}\right)[/tex]
[tex]= \left(p^{2} \sum_{i=0}^{\infty} \left( p^{2}\right)^{i}\right) \left( \frac{1}{1-p}\right) = \left(\frac{p^{2}}{1-p^{2}} \right) \left( \frac{1}{1-p}\right) = \frac{p^{2}}{(1-p)^{2}(1+p)}[/tex]
 
benorin said:
The double seires you have presented is convergent only for [itex]\left| p\right| <1[/itex] (p may be real or complex), for these values of p we have:
[tex]\sum_{i=1}^{\infty} \sum_{j=i}^{\infty} p^{j+i} = \sum_{i=1}^{\infty} \left( p^{i} \sum_{j=i}^{\infty} p^{j}\right) = \sum_{i=1}^{\infty} \left( p^{2i} \sum_{j=i}^{\infty} p^{j-i}\right)[/tex]
[tex]=\sum_{i=1}^{\infty} \left( p^{2i} \sum_{j=0}^{\infty} p^{j}\right) = \left( \sum_{i=1}^{\infty} p^{2i}\right) \left( \sum_{j=0}^{\infty} p^{j}\right)[/tex]
[tex]= \left(p^{2} \sum_{i=0}^{\infty} \left( p^{2}\right)^{i}\right) \left( \frac{1}{1-p}\right) = \left(\frac{p^{2}}{1-p^{2}} \right) \left( \frac{1}{1-p}\right) = \frac{p^{2}}{(1-p)^{2}(1+p)}[/tex]

Thanks Benorin. That's very nice.:smile:
 

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