What is the origin of coal and where can coal veins be found?

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The discussion revolves around the definition and origin of coal veins, as well as their geographical locations. Participants explore various theories regarding the formation of coal and seek additional information on the topic.

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  • One participant seeks clarification on the term "coal vein" and its definition, expressing a lack of knowledge on the subject.
  • Another participant proposes that the term "vein" relates to fissures in hard rock filled with mineral-rich sediment, although they acknowledge a lack of supporting evidence for this view.
  • A participant provides a link to a database of coal veins in Pennsylvania and mentions a town named Burning Coal Vein in North Dakota.
  • A later post discusses two main theories regarding the origin of coal: the allochthonous or transport theory, which suggests coal is formed from materials transported by water, and the autochthonous or in-situ hypothesis, which posits that coal originates from local vegetable accumulations similar to peat bogs. This participant notes a historical divide between European and American geologists on this topic.
  • The same participant highlights the lack of understanding regarding the organization of coal in geological studies, suggesting that this has influenced the prevailing theories about coal formation.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the definition of coal veins or the theories regarding the origin of coal. Multiple competing views and uncertainties remain present in the discussion.

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Some claims about the origin of coal rely on historical perspectives and may not incorporate recent findings or methodologies. The discussion reflects ongoing debates in geology regarding the formation of coal deposits.

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What is the "Coal Vein"?

I've just heard this term, and am almost completely ignorant as to its meaning. What is the definition of the "coal vein"? Where is it found?

Any information (or a link) about the "coal vein" is appreciated.
 
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I've heard the term "vein" relating to minerals before. I believe it is due to fissures forming in old hard rock, and mineral rich sedimentation filling the cracks. I have no backing for this, it is just the way I always imagined it.

Njorl
 
Here is a database of Pennsylvania Coal Veins:

http://www.dep.state.pa.us/dms_apps/anthracite3.asp

There also seems to be a town in North Dakota, Burning Coal Vein.

Njorl
 
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Any more information?
 
http://www.geocities.com/aleph135/morwell18.html
For over a century and a half a controversy has raged in regard to that all important mineral, coal. On the one hand it has been maintained that its raw materials are the result of transport by water and that consequently coal is essentially of the nature of an aqueous organic sediment. On the other hand, the opinion has been held that coal is in the main the result of vegetable accumulations similar to those in actual circum-polar peat bogs consisting of the subaerial deposits, representing the successive generations of fallen peat plants. The first view of the origin of coal is usually called the allochthonous or transport theory. The second is known as the autochthonous or in-situ hypothesis. European geologists have in the main in recent years held to the latter view and their American colleagues have for the most part followed them in this opinion. It is important to emphasize however that the earlier and even the current views in regard to the origin of coal are for the most part arrived at in complete ignorance of its organization. Except in very recent years figures revealing the organization of coal are conspicuously absent in geological works, even in those which particularly deal with coal. It is apparently not without significance that the French who above all others gave early attention to the actual organization of coal, are supporters of the transport or aquatic hypothesis of the origin of coal. Although new methods and improved old methods now give us real insight into the organization of coal, there is yet unfortunately in general little observable rational improvement in geological theories regarding the formation of coal deposits.

You can find the location of coal veins here: http://www.dep.state.pa.us/dms_apps/anthracite3.asp?vein=Zero
 
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