How to Calculate the Electric Field at the Center of Curvature?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric field at the center of curvature of a semicircular charge distribution. Participants explore the mathematical approach to derive the electric field in terms of the charge Q, Coulomb's constant k, and the radius a, focusing on integration and symmetry considerations.

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  • Exploratory
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant initially calculated the electric field magnitude as (2Qk)/(a^2) but questioned its correctness.
  • Another suggested finding the electric field for a small segment of the semicircle and integrating, noting the simplicity of the integral due to uniform distance.
  • A different participant emphasized using symmetry to analyze the electric field components, indicating that some components would cancel out while others would add up in one direction.
  • Further contributions included attempts to express differential charge elements and their corresponding electric field contributions, with some participants expressing confusion about their calculations.
  • One participant confirmed a derived expression for the electric field, but another pointed out a potential error, suggesting a factor of 2 discrepancy in the integration process.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the correct calculation of the electric field, as participants express differing results and identify potential errors in each other's work. Multiple competing views remain regarding the integration and application of symmetry.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the mathematical steps involved in the integration or the implications of symmetry on the electric field components. There are indications of missing assumptions or clarifications needed regarding the integration limits.

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Here an electric field problems I'm struggling with:
Positive charge Q is uniformly distributed around a semicircle of radius a. Find the electric field at the center of curvature P. Answer in terms of Q, k, and a.
When I worked this out on my own, I calculated the magnitude of the electric field to be (2Qk)/(a^2), but this is wrong. Could someone give me a hint on how to do this correctly?
Thanks!
 
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Find the field for a segment (dΘ) of the semi-circle and integrate. Luckily it's an easy integral to do (since the distance is the same for all points on the curve). Try and set it up.
 
Use symmetry
Consider an axis passing through the Centre and dividing the semicircle into two halves So charge density(lambda)=Q/(pi)r.

Now consider dq charge symmetrical to axis u will see one component of Field produced cancels and other adds up in one direction. Can u show what u get from above hint

Anyway it is going to be moved to HW
 
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still not getting it :)

Does mean dE=(kdQ)/(a^2)?
dQ=Pi(a)(lamda) da?
Is this remotely close?
 


Originally posted by eku_girl83
Does mean dE=(kdQ)/(a^2)?
dQ=Pi(a)(lamda) da?
Is this remotely close?
[tex]dQ = \frac {Q}{\pi a} a d\Theta = \frac{Q d\Theta}{\pi}[/tex]
[tex]dE = \frac {k}{a^2} \sin \Theta dQ = \frac{Qk}{\pi a^2} \sin \Theta d\Theta[/tex]


I did neglect to mention, as himanshu points out, that you will need to take advantage of symmetry. Imagine the semicircle intersecting points (-a,0) (0,a) and (a,0). The only component of field you need to worry about is the y-component: by symmetry, the x-components (from opposite sides) cancel.
 
answer

I get (Qk)/(Pi a^2) directed down?
Thank you so much for helping me!
 


Originally posted by eku_girl83
I get (Qk)/(Pi a^2) directed down?
Thank you so much for helping me!
Check your work. I think you are off by a factor of 2. (Unless I made a mistake.) Did you integrate over the full range of Θ?
 
Yes u are off by a factor 2
 

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