How to Show Force and Velocity are Perpendicular in a Magnetic Field?

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The discussion focuses on demonstrating that the force and velocity of a charged particle in a magnetic field are perpendicular. The Lorentz force is defined as F = q(v x B), where v is the velocity and B is the magnetic field. By applying Newton's second law, mdv/dt = F, and using the product rule for differentiation, participants confirm that the derivative of the dot product v·v leads to the conclusion that both force and velocity maintain constant magnitudes and are perpendicular to each other.

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  • Understanding of the Lorentz force equation F = q(v x B)
  • Knowledge of Newton's second law, mdv/dt = F
  • Familiarity with vector calculus, specifically the product rule for derivatives
  • Basic concepts of magnetic fields and charged particle dynamics
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  • Study vector calculus applications in physics, focusing on the product rule
  • Explore the implications of the Lorentz force in electromagnetic theory
  • Investigate the behavior of charged particles in uniform magnetic fields
  • Learn about the conservation of energy and momentum in magnetic fields
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The force acting on a moving charge particle with mass m and charge q in a magnetic field B is the Lorentz force F= q(v x B), where v is it's velocity. Suppose thata particle moves in the (x,y) plane with a uniform B field in the z direction. Assuming Newton' second law, mdv/dt = F, show that the forceand velocity are perpendicular, and that both have constan magnitude. Hint: Find (d/dt)(v dot v).


I don't know where to start. How do you take the derivative of v dot v?
 
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I suspect this will be moved to the "homework" section!

You differentiate v dot v using the "product rule":

The derivative of v dot v is: dv/dt dot v+ v dot dv/dt. Since the dot product of vetors is commutative, this is the same as 2v dot dv/dt (should remind you of the derivative of v2).

Since you are told that "the Lorentz force F= q(v x B)
"mdv/dt = F" becomes m dv/dt= q(v x B)
 
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I think you should take the dot product first, then take the derivative...it is easier to see what is being done and the algebra is simpler.
 

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