If you go fast enough will you turn into a black hole

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of whether an object could turn into a black hole if it travels fast enough, touching on themes of mass, density, and relativistic effects. Participants explore theoretical implications of speed on mass and gravitational effects, as well as the nature of black holes and energy.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Debate/contested, Conceptual clarification, Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that an object with a certain critical mass or density could turn into a black hole if it travels fast enough, questioning the role of relative mass and the concept of a "relative black hole."
  • Another participant argues that an object will not turn into a black hole because its mass in its own coordinate system remains unchanged, although gravitational effects on other bodies may vary at high speeds.
  • A different viewpoint mentions that black holes have escape velocities greater than the speed of light, implying that nothing with rest mass can reach that speed, thus maintaining the ability to receive signals from a black hole.
  • One participant raises a question about a hypothetical "supersymmetric velocity" near the speed of light where massive bodies might reduce to pure energy.
  • There is a clarification about the definition of pure energy, suggesting it refers to energy without rest mass.
  • A participant inquires about the possibility of a spinning rectangular prism collapsing into a black hole at its axis if it were to rotate at the speed of light.
  • Another participant counters that it is impossible to rotate something at the speed of light and reiterates that relativistic mass does not determine black hole formation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between speed, mass, and black hole formation. There is no consensus on whether an object could turn into a black hole due to high velocity, and multiple competing ideas remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss various assumptions about mass, speed, and the nature of black holes without reaching definitive conclusions. The discussion includes speculative ideas that are not universally accepted.

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I was just thinking, once an object has a certain critical mass( or is it density?) it will turn into a black whole. The faster you go the larger your relative mass will get. If you go fast enough could you turn into a black whole.

( also, is your mass increase only relative to an slower moving observer. If it is, could their be such a thing as a relative black hole... [suddely goes cross eyed and has a pounding headache} mabey am thinking to hard, or not enough. if some one could clearn this up for me i would greatly appreate it.
 
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You will not turn into a black hole, since the mass in your coordinate system is unchanged. The gravitational effect on other bodies, which are going past you at close the speed of light, will be effected.

An example of a similar effect occurs in particle accelerators, where the particles are traveling very close to the speed of light. The strength of the magnetic field of the accelerator has to be adjusted for this increased mass, to keep the charged particles on track.
 
Greetings !

I'd like to add that a BH has no normal (Hawking
Radiation I consider abnormal here) emmisions -
its escape velocity is greater than c. However,
it is abvious that nothing (with rest mass)can
reach c relative to you and hence you will
always be able to receive EM signals from it,
which means that relative to you it won't be a BH.

Live long and prosper.
 
Might there be a supersymmetric velocity near c where massive bodies reduce to pure energy?
 
What's pure energy ?
No electromagnetic interactions with other objects ? Only gravitational ? Or what ?
 
Pure energy=energy without rest mass
 
Got it...
 
If you had a rectangular prism/bar and caused it to spin at c, could it collapse into a black hole (at the axis)?
 
It's impossible to rotate something at c, plus the axis would be at rest. Also, as has been pointed out, relatavistic mass does not contribute to whether or not something collapses into a black hole.
 

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