Is it Possible to Fly an Airplane on Mars?

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The discussion centers around the feasibility of flying an airplane on Mars, exploring the characteristics of the Martian atmosphere and the implications for aircraft design. Participants consider both conventional airplanes and alternative methods of exploration, such as balloons.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the possibility of flying an airplane on Mars due to the thin atmosphere, expressing uncertainty about their understanding of aerodynamics in such conditions.
  • Another participant notes that while the Martian atmosphere is tenuous, it is not absent, and suggests that with a sufficiently large wingspan, high velocity, and a lightweight design, robotic planes could potentially fly on Mars.
  • A different contribution highlights that the atmospheric pressure on Mars is less than 1% of Earth's at sea level, with variations depending on height, time of day, and season, referencing external resources for further details.
  • One participant compares Martian atmospheric pressure to that at high altitudes on Earth and proposes the use of balloons for exploration, discussing their advantages and limitations in terms of range and steering capabilities.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that there is an atmosphere on Mars, but they express differing views on the practicality of flying conventional airplanes versus using alternative methods like balloons. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific capabilities and designs required for flight on Mars.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various factors affecting flight on Mars, including atmospheric pressure variations and the need for specific aircraft characteristics, but do not reach a consensus on the feasibility of conventional airplanes.

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Hey there

I just saw a show on Discovery about spacetravel, and a little question arose as the show ended:
In the documentary, by my observations aged 3 -4 years, they mentioned a plane going to Mars to explore the planet. In the animations it looked a lot like conventional airplanes with wings, propeller and the usual stuff... But is it at all posible to fly an aeroplane in the Martian atmosphere? No air to ride on? Or is my limited knowledge of how aeroplanes work too limited? Hope you guys can shed a bit of light on this matter.

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Thomas Hansen
 
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Atmosphere tenuous but not absent

I forget the approimate figure for one Martian atmosphere of pressure at mean elevation but it's there. Sandstroms and dust devils (which the Mars Rovers are attempting to study) wouldn't be possible without an atmosphere. The fact that the sky is not black is also a clue to the presense of an atmosphere (sunlight must reflect off atoms/molecules in atmosphere to give sky it's color/hue).

If the wingspan is large enough, velocity high enough and the vehicle light enough then you could fly robotic planes on Mars.
 
Yes, there's an atmosphere; but the pressure at 'ground level' is only ~<1% of that of the Earth. However, there's a quite significant variation due to 'height', time of day, and 'season'. http://quest.arc.nasa.gov/mars/ask/atmosphere/ has more details.
 
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The atmospheric pressure at ground level on Mars is roughly equal to the pressure at about 35km on Earth. The current record-holder for highest-flying aircraft on Earth belongs to the SR-71 (love tha Blackbird!) at about 24km.

Ballons have also been proposed as Mars Explorers.Ballons have flown up to about 51km on Erth, so they could do the job. Another advantage would be the nearly limitless range of such a balloon. It could be warmed by the Sun to make it rise,and drift about the planet for a long time. The only power requirements would be for the intruments. Obviosly, the dissadvantage would be that we would have to observe whatever place it landed, without being able to steer to exact destinations. But it would really cover some territory!
 

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