Can Ancient Technology Work? Experiments & Flying Vimanas

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility and safety of experiments related to ancient technology, specifically focusing on the "Mercury Vortex Experiment" and the concept of flying Vimanas. Participants explore various technical specifications and safety concerns associated with the experiment, while also referencing historical technologies and archaeological findings.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the feasibility of the "Mercury Vortex Experiment," raising concerns about missing specifications such as the volume of the beaker, the thickness of copper plates, and the voltage required.
  • There is skepticism regarding the credibility of the website hosting the experiment, with some participants categorizing its content as "highly questionable," particularly the claims of anti-gravity and free energy.
  • Participants express interest in MagnetoHydroDynamics (MHD) as a potential area of exploration related to the experiment.
  • Concerns are raised about the dangers of handling mercury, including the risk of irreversible nerve damage, with references to historical contexts of mercury exposure.
  • A participant introduces the topic of a submerged ancient civilization off the west coast of India, suggesting its potential implications for archaeology and its dating controversies.
  • Links to other resources about ancient technology, including the work of Hero, are shared, with some participants expressing humor about the applications of such technologies.
  • Another participant mentions a more serious site claiming to have replicated the experiment, though the credibility of this claim is not evaluated.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express skepticism about the experiment's validity and safety, but there is no consensus on whether it could work or the implications of the ancient technologies discussed. Multiple competing views remain regarding the credibility of sources and the interpretation of archaeological findings.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in the specifications of the experiment and the potential dangers involved, as well as the unresolved nature of the archaeological dating of the submerged civilization.

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Could this experiment ever work ?
http://server6.hypermart.net/netasys/

Im going to take over the world in a flying Vimana muahaha :)
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Even better has anybody tried this ?
 
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I'm not sure if the "Mercury Vortex Experiment" would work or not, but I have to wonder about the directions, such as:
-What is the volume of the beaker used?
-How much is 5% of this unmentioned volume?
-How thick should the bottom copper plate be? (And should it have the same surface area as the bottom of the beaker?)
-How thick should the top copper plate be?
-How much voltage should you apply to "charge the beaker capacitor via a DC power source"?
-Does it matter what direction you stir the mercury?
-How much mercury vapor is produced when the charge is applied?
-What exactly does it mean that "This experiment could be very dangerous?"

I would catagorize anything on this site or it's links as "highly questionable".
For example, the anti-gravity theories, the free energy motor, etc.
 
I agree there is a lot of missing specifications of the experiment ( assuming it has ever been carried out that is ) and the general content of the site is highly dubious.

Maybe MagnetoHydroDynamics (MHD) could give a clue? Whatever probably the only way to know for sure is to experiment.
 
Originally posted by J-Man
BTW, this website has better "Ancient Technology" invented by a guy called Hero.

http://www.history.rochester.edu/steam/hero/

lol great stuff I want 'An Altar Organ blown by manual Labour' preferably powered by my boss :)
 
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-What exactly does it mean that "This experiment could be very dangerous?"

I don't know if this is their reason or not, but it should be noted that handling mercury can lead to irreversable nerve damage (the phrase "mad as a hatter" came from insane behavior produced in people involved in using mercury nitrate in the making of felt hats).
 
Something that might interest you, an ancient lost civilization, possibly the oldest in the world, has been found submerged off the west cost of India. It is supposed to be 9500 years old, based on carbon dating of teeth, and artifacts found on the site.

Archaeologists are hedging on the date, siting the limitations of the carbon dating technique. Also, if this age is correct, it totally changes archaeology because this site would predate all other known civilizations by about 4500 to 5000 years.

Here is a BBC story about the find.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1923794.stm
 
Originally posted by Artman
I don't know if this is their reason or not, but it should be noted that handling mercury can lead to irreversable nerve damage (the phrase "mad as a hatter" came from insane behavior produced in people involved in using mercury nitrate in the making of felt hats).
Yeah I would not attempt this without a lab :(
 
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site about this

this is a much more serious site

http://www.peter-thomson.co.uk

seems like he replicated the experiment
 
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