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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the perceived requirements and challenges of pursuing a career in academic physics, particularly focusing on age, educational background, and institutional prestige. Participants share personal experiences and reflections on their academic journeys and aspirations within the field.

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Main Points Raised

  • eNtRopY proposes a survey to determine if individuals have what it takes to succeed in academic physics based on age and educational background.
  • eNtRopY suggests that individuals over 35 without a professional physicist status should reconsider their aspirations in academia.
  • eNtRopY indicates that those under 35 must be engaged in post-doc positions at top institutions to have a chance at success.
  • eNtRopY raises concerns about individuals under 30 who do not attend or plan to attend top graduate schools, implying they may not succeed in academia.
  • Another participant questions the implications for those under 10 years old regarding the survey's criteria.
  • drag shares their experience as an engineering graduate student at a lower-ranked institution, expressing doubts about their chances of becoming a professor.
  • drag reflects on the trend of professors coming from prestigious institutions, suggesting a perceived barrier to entry based on educational pedigree.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility of success in academia based on educational background and institutional ranking, with no consensus reached on the validity of eNtRopY's survey or the implications for aspiring academics.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the subjective nature of success in academia and the potential biases related to institutional prestige, but does not resolve the underlying assumptions or criteria for success.

eNtRopY
Loop Dreams... Loop Quantum Gravity Dreams that is...

So, many people ask me if they have what it takes to make it in the world of academic physics. Here's my little survey for helping people find out if they have the right stuff.


How old are you?

If you answered >= 35, and you're not already a professional physicist, then forget it.

If you answered < 35 but >= 30, and you're not doing a post-doc at one of the top five research institutions in your chosen field of physics, then forget it.

If you answered < 30, and you don't attend, or haven't attended, or don't see foresee yourself going to one of the top ten graduate schools in physics by the time you're 30, then forget it.


Life is brutal.

eNtRopY
 
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So, I suppose you've done some of the above ?
Good for you ! :wink:
 


Originally posted by eNtRopY
So, many people ask me if they have what it takes to make it in the world of academic physics. Here's my little survey for helping people find out if they have the right stuff.


How old are you?

If you answered >= 35, and you're not already a professional physicist, then forget it.

If you answered < 35 but >= 30, and you're not doing a post-doc at one of the top five research institutions in your chosen field of physics, then forget it.

If you answered < 30, and you don't attend (or haven't attended) one of the top ten graduate schools in physics, then forget it.


What happens if some one is <10 and not yet attending graduate school?
 


Originally posted by drag
So, I suppose you've done some of the above ?
Good for you ! :wink:

No, I'm not a physicist either. I am an engineering graduate student... and the institution I attend is only ranked at number 14 for the subject I am studying. Of course, I would like to be an engineering professor someday, but I realize that there is a high probability that this won't happen.

I mean I look at the professors of my school, and I see that they all went to schools like Princeton, Stanford, CalTech, and MIT. I believe there is a general, unofficial rule that a person can only be a professor at a school with an equal or lesser rating. But let's face it, the only people who are guarenteed to become professors are those who are considered the best of the best.

eNtRopY
 

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