Money or Love: Which Truly Brings Happiness?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between money and love, specifically exploring which of the two contributes more significantly to happiness. Participants examine the implications of material wealth versus emotional connections, touching on personal values, societal norms, and individual experiences.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether money can truly bring happiness, suggesting that it may lead to superficial relationships or untrue love.
  • Others propose that love is a more fundamental and natural source of happiness compared to money, which is viewed as a man-made construct.
  • A participant emphasizes the importance of not letting money dictate one's choices, advocating for a perspective where money serves as a tool rather than a master.
  • There are differing views on the implications of a partner engaging in adult entertainment for money, with some seeing it as a potential learning experience while others view it as a mistake.
  • Some argue that happiness is tied to freedom, which can be achieved through both love and money, but note that economic constraints often limit access to that freedom.
  • A viewpoint is expressed that money, while providing experiences, ultimately constricts life compared to the expansive nature of love.
  • Several participants reflect on the societal tendency to prioritize money over love, suggesting that people often work harder for financial gain than for emotional fulfillment.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit a range of competing views on the significance of money versus love in achieving happiness. There is no clear consensus, as some prioritize love while others acknowledge the necessity of money in modern life.

Contextual Notes

Some arguments depend on personal definitions of happiness and the roles of money and love in achieving it. The discussion includes subjective experiences and philosophical reflections that may not apply universally.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring the philosophical implications of wealth and relationships, as well as those reflecting on their personal values regarding happiness.

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Can it bring me happiness then ?
Is it true that if I have money, I can buy a many things even someone to work for me ?
Or if someone has money, do I have to follow him ? And if I had a lot of money and someone is after me, what will I do ? His love is untrue right ?

I know material life is important, but between material life and spiritual life, what will you choose ?

Can you tell me ?

Thanks

Valina
 
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Love might be a natural common denominator in the universe... money is definitely man-made.
 
money should not be seen as seriosly important, but for this society this world we have to be aware we live with that.
just remmber let money be your slave but not be a slave of money =D


as a art student, i do art not for money but I do art for enjoyment self explore or satisfy.

And this will be the best happiness I would obtain naturally and forever but money it’s not nature and it doesn’t last for ever. the happiness u get from money is not pure. And u have to manipulated well to get happiness from it
 
never put money in the first line, other wise money will leads ppl to the wrong choice or path.
 
I would say love probably. If I had a girlfriend and she wanted to be a pornstar or whatever for money, I wouldn't really care as long as she came back to me afterwards and admitted her mistake and learned from it...
 
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I would say love probably. If I had a girlfriend and she wanted to be a pornstar or whatever for money, I wouldn't really care as long as she came back to me afterwards and admitted her mistake and learned from it...

Why would being a porn star be a "mistake"?
 
Greetings !

These things are not supposed to and can not replace each
other. First, it all depends on your enitial perspective -
if it is, as I believe it should be, that happiness is the primary
goal in life, then stay with me here, if not - its pointless reading.

As I see it, hapiness is freedom to do what you want.
Freedom devides into what you called - spiritual and physical.
Spiritual is love. Physical, can come in different forms. It
depends on what are the things you feel you must do and
be able to do to be happy.

The first can not really be controlled. And that's about all
there's to it.

For many, today, only money can provide physical freedom.
That is rather unfortunate because economics dictate that
most will never have nearly enough.

So, if a person feels as I described - it's really down to
2 main possibilities - either you win or you loose. It's
all up to you. (Of course, you can also accept defeat and
settle for one of them, or get yourself hypnotized. :wink: )

Live long and prosper.
 
The only reason I can think of for why a 'girlfriend' of mine would want to do porn is to learn from it if she really loved me, so that afterwards she would recognise it as a mistake, and that our 'love' was bigger than going and flippantly sleeping with strangers. The action of my 'girlfriend' would actually be a 'dare' on her part maybe sub-conciously to learn from it. It would only be a learning experience - doing the porn... I wouldn't try to stop it so that she could learn it for herself... plus I wouldn't want to control her if I really loved her and she really loved me... I don't even really have a 'girlfriend' but i can think of an ideal example...
 
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Can someone move this out of theory of everything

Why try to debate what is grander money or love

Let people who love money quest for it, if it is something that brings self worth then let them have it however let someone with money never declare superioty in happyness to someone without money. In the end people will love different things.
 
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Tom McCurdy said:
Can someone move this out of theory of everything

Why try to debate what is grander money or love

Let people who love money quest for it, if it is something that brings self worth then let them have it however let someone with money never declare superioty in happyness to someone without money. In the end people will love different things.

You're right. This goes to General Philosophy.
 
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Is anything bigger than any thing? Money is an object, it's possession can create experience, but compared to love it is nothing. Love is that which opens the universe and connects all that is. Money closes life down, constricts it, quantifies it, supresses it, schedules it, and slowly bleeds it away. Love has a price, so does money. Love brings truth in which money may be possessed, but you will not be possessed by for the greater part. If you need to ask such a question, you have some living to do, some questions you must ask your self, for only you may answer them. These will be the most important questions of your life, for they will open the doors to the universe, you will begin to understand what you are, what you are part of, your destiny, and all that is.
 
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Not many people admit to the belief that money is more important than love, but it seems to me that people work harder for money than for love.
 
  • #14
money, like love, makes the world go 'round...
 
  • #15
cragwolf said:
Not many people admit to the belief that money is more important than love, but it seems to me that people work harder for money than for love.
it isn't until you have worked hard and get more money than you ever expected that you realize that it ain't worth the paper it's printed on.

in fact, it only provides the ability to avoid self and what is truly missing in your life.

it may not be fun to be less than rich, but the quality of life can only come through the experience and exchange of love.

love&peace,
olde drunk
 

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