Can DNA testing reveal a person's ethnic origin?

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The discussion revolves around the potential of DNA testing to reveal a person's ethnic origin, particularly in the context of tracing lineage and ancestry. Participants explore the accuracy of such tests, the types of DNA involved, and the implications of using genetic information for identifying ethnic backgrounds.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether DNA testing can accurately identify ethnic origins and if a significant percentage of ancestry is required for reliable results.
  • There is mention of mitochondrial DNA being stable and potentially useful for characterizing genetic backgrounds, while genomic DNA may also be employed for racial fingerprinting.
  • One participant shares a personal narrative about their ancestry and expresses curiosity about distinguishing between different ethnic groups based on DNA.
  • Concerns are raised about the ethical implications of DNA testing, including fears of racial profiling and the socio-political context surrounding such tests.
  • References are made to existing databases of DNA from modern populations that could be compared to those of descendants of historical populations, such as African slaves in America.
  • Some participants suggest that specific markers and chromosomes, such as the Y chromosome, might be more useful for determining ancestral relationships.
  • There is a suggestion that testing may require DNA samples from specific ethnic groups for comparison, and that costs may be involved.
  • A clarification is made regarding the difference between "race" and "ethnicity," with one participant emphasizing that ethnicity is a cultural term.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the feasibility and implications of DNA testing for ethnic origin, with no clear consensus reached on the accuracy or ethical considerations of such tests.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge limitations related to the availability of historical records and the complexities of defining and identifying ethnic backgrounds through genetic testing.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in genealogy, ancestry research, and the intersection of genetics and ethnicity may find this discussion relevant.

Will
Is this possible? If so, must the person being tested have a significant percentage to be identified? I am unsure about one of my great-great grandparents lineage, and would like to know, since census records cannot be found. I have heard about something like this, I believe, something to do with decendants of african slaves trying to find their exact location of origin. From what I read, the tests are accurate enough to pinpoint very specific locations, even villages possibly. This after many, many generations had passed.
If I remember correctly, they had a database of DNA from modern day africans from the various regions. These were then compared with decendants of slaves in america.
I know that there is some opposition to these kinds of tests, a fear of racial profiling and such. But if the technology exists, I say why not use it? After all, this is America, more and more people are of mixed ancestry. I would really like to know, and I can't be the only one. Any more information would be appreciated.
 
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There is something called mitochondrial DNA that is passed from mother to child. The mDNA is very stable and can be used to characterize the genetic background of a person.

Then also the genomic DNA could be used, with some kind of racial fingerprinting is done. My background on it is limited, but to some extend it should be possible to do it.
 
Originally posted by iansmith
This was discuss previously

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1229

just browse and you will find some answers


Nah, that seemed like more of a heated ethical debate, not very "science like". All I am curious of is whether its possible to distinguish between the DNA of a pacific islander to that of an east asian. One of my ancestors was an immigrant chinese plantation worker that came to Hawaii in the late 1800s. So there is this deep dark secret in our family that this man had several children with a Hawaiian woman, but when he could afford to pay for passage for his wife he left her. Since the children were still small, the were raised as her own, supposedly.
Its hard to find records from those days. And if this is true, the records probably would have been changed anyway. These were very racist times, and even my grandmother would never talk about or acnowledge it. I suppose that it doesn't really matter that much, but I will always be curious.
Thats why I mentioned the article I breifly saw about the descendants of african slave. That was the one and only article of many that I found that did not consist of basically arguments between racists and anti-racists, civil liberties groups and so on. I got tired of looking further. hoping I can find some thing here, "just the facts " so to speak.
 
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Originally posted by damgo
Good article on tracing migrations via genetics:
http://www.nytimes.com/library/national/science/050200sci-genetics-evolution.html
Atlantic perspective on the social issues here:
http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2001/04/olson-p1.htm


The link posted by damgo show some link between race and genetics.

As Monique said usually mitochondrial DNA can be use to trace your mother origin. The Y chromosome and some maker sequence migth be more useful to find your origin. Scientific journals and paper migth have more information on which marker and chromosome are use to determine the ancestor relationship.

If you want ot test your DNA your going to need some east asian and hawain people DNA in order to comapare your own DNA. It migth also cost a lot of money but some university migth be interrest to take you as subject for an experiment. It cost nothing to ask!
 
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Originally posted by Will
Is this possible? If so, must the person being tested have a significant percentage to be identified? I am unsure about one of my great-great grandparents lineage, and would like to know, since census records cannot be found. I have heard about something like this, I believe, something to do with decendants of african slaves trying to find their exact location of origin. From what I read, the tests are accurate enough to pinpoint very specific locations, even villages possibly. This after many, many generations had passed.
If I remember correctly, they had a database of DNA from modern day africans from the various regions. These were then compared with decendants of slaves in america.
I know that there is some opposition to these kinds of tests, a fear of racial profiling and such. But if the technology exists, I say why not use it? After all, this is America, more and more people are of mixed ancestry. I would really like to know, and I can't be the only one. Any more information would be appreciated.

Family Tree DNA
You may find the help you need at this site, my experience with them was slightly different then what you are looking for , it was through a massive surname project for my fathers line, they were great and it was well worth the investment. I think it may be worth your time to see what type of assistance they may be able to provide you.


Best of luck.
-Kat
 
You mean race. Ethnicity is a cultural term.
 

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