Compton Radius vs Compton Wavelength

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The discussion revolves around the differences and relationships between the Compton Radius and Compton Wavelength of an electron. Participants explore definitions, calculations, and the implications of these quantities in the context of physics.

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  • One participant notes that the Compton Radius for an electron is defined as 0.386x10-10 cm, while the Compton Wavelength is 2.42x10-10 cm, questioning the difference between the two.
  • Another participant explains that the Compton Radius is derived from equating electrostatic potential energy with the rest energy of the electron, while the Compton Wavelength is related to the wavelength shift in the Compton scattering process.
  • A participant calculates the ratio of the Compton Wavelength to the Compton Radius as approximately 6.2694, suggesting it is close to 2π.
  • Another participant challenges the values presented, providing their own calculations for the classical electron radius and Compton Wavelength, resulting in a ratio of approximately 8.61.
  • One participant asserts that the relationship between the Compton Wavelength and classical radius can be expressed as λC = (2π/α)R0, where α is the fine structure constant.
  • A later reply claims that an arithmetic error exists in the second post, attributing discrepancies to the use of different constants (h vs. ħ) in various texts.

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Participants express differing views on the values and relationships between the Compton Radius and Compton Wavelength, with no consensus reached on the correct calculations or interpretations.

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Some calculations depend on specific definitions and constants, which may vary between sources. The discussion includes unresolved mathematical steps and differing interpretations of the relationships between the quantities.

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A 1992 book dedicated to electrons writes about the Compton Radius of an electron. The Compton Wavelength for an electron is defined as 2.42x10(-10) cm, whereas this book defines the electron Compton radius as 0.386x10(-10) cm. What is the difference?
 
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The ratio between both space magnitude are 6.2694, very close to 2*Pi.
Sure it's really 2*Pi
 
:confused:
But wait: I think you mistaked the values
I have the for classical electron radious
Ro= e^2 /(mc^2)= 2.82E-13 cm.
and on the other hand, the compton wavelength
LambdaC= h/mc= 24.3E-13 cm.
( m is the rest mass of the electron)



and the ratio is really LambdaC/Ro= 8.61 (dimensionless value)
 
lanjarote said:
:confused:
But wait: I think you mistaked the values
I have the for classical electron radious
Ro= e^2 /(mc^2)= 2.82E-13 cm.
and on the other hand, the compton wavelength
LambdaC= h/mc= 24.3E-13 cm.
( m is the rest mass of the electron)



and the ratio is really LambdaC/Ro= 8.61 (dimensionless value)
One easily ptoves by substituting known formula relations that lambda_C=(2pi/alpha)R_0, where alpha the fine structure constant.
 
One easily proves by substituting known formula relations that lambda_C=(2pi/alpha)R_0, where alpha the fine structure constant.
 
Lanjarote's first post was right, the second has an arith error.
Its just that some books use h and some use hbar .
 

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