Young's modulus problem - need a hint

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The discussion focuses on solving a Young's modulus problem involving two wires: brass and copper, each 50 cm long and 1.0 mm in diameter, connected to form a total length of 1 meter. The total length change when a force is applied is 0.5 mm, with Young's moduli of 1.3 x 1011 Pa for brass and 1.0 x 1011 Pa for copper. By applying Hooke's law and the compatibility of deformations, the participants derive equations to find the individual length changes, concluding that the length change in the brass wire is 0.21 mm.

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Young's modulus problem -- need a hint

There are two wires, one brass the other copper, both 50 cm long and 1.0 mm diameter. They are somehow connected to form a 1m length. A force is applied to both ends, resulting in a total length change of 0.5 mm. Given the respective young's moduluses of 1.3 x 10^11 and 1.0 x 10^11, I'm supposed to find the amount of length change in each section.

Apparently a variation of Hooke's law should be used here, such as F/A=Y(change in length/original length)

I'm stuck on how can I solve this with 2 unknowns (force and change in length)?
Regards
 
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redshift said:
There are two wires, one brass the other copper, both 50 cm long and 1.0 mm diameter. They are somehow connected to form a 1m length. A force is applied to both ends, resulting in a total length change of 0.5 mm. Given the respective young's moduluses of 1.3 x 10^11 and 1.0 x 10^11, I'm supposed to find the amount of length change in each section.

Apparently a variation of Hooke's law should be used here, such as F/A=Y(change in length/original length)

I'm stuck on how can I solve this with 2 unknowns (force and change in length)?
Regards

Hello redshift! I'm going to rewritte your problem in terms of stress [tex]\sigma[/tex] (Pa) and unitary deformation [tex]\epsilon=\frac{L-L_o}{L_o}[/tex] where Lo is the original lenght. So that, the stress exerted is the same in each section of the wire:

Hooke's law: [tex]\sigma=E_t \epsilon_t=E_1 \epsilon_1=E_2 \epsilon_2[/tex] where "Et" (N/m^2) is the apparent Young modulus of the complete wire.

Compatibility of deformations: [tex]\bigtriangleup L=\bigtriangleup L_1 + \bigtriangleup L_2[/tex]


Then, you have three equations for three unknowns: Et, epsilon1 and epsilon2.

Hope this help you a bit.




You've got two unknowns for
 
Many thanks

I think I get it. Based on your equations, the ratio of the young's moduluses should equal the ratio of the individual increases, that is, 13/10 = L1/L2
Therefore, 10L1 = 13L2
Since, L1 = L2 = 0.5, then L1 = 0.5 - L2. Plugging this into the above gives 10(0.5 - L2) = 13L2, so that the increase of L2 (brass wire) is 0.21 mm.

Many thanks!
 

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