Unveiled: A Revolutionary Safety Air-Brake for Elevators

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The discussion revolves around a proposed safety air-brake system for elevators, specifically focusing on the mechanics involved when an elevator cable snaps and the brakes engage to stop the elevator. The subject area includes concepts from dynamics and forces, particularly relating to acceleration, force, and motion under gravity.

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  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the elevator, questioning why the force exerted by the brakes is not simply equal to the weight of the elevator. There are attempts to apply equations of motion and free-body diagrams to analyze the situation. Some participants express confusion regarding the application of gravitational force and the role of acceleration in this context.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their thoughts and equations related to the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of free-body diagrams and Newton's laws, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or solution yet.

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Participants note the complexity of the problem and the challenge of applying the correct physics principles without complete information, such as the coefficient of friction. There is also a recognition that the problem involves dynamic conditions rather than static ones.

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An engineer claims to have a new kind of "safety" air-brake for elevators. If the cable should snap, a patented velocity-sensor turns on the brakes once the elevator hits 40 mph. The brakes are powerful enough to stop a 700 lb elevator in 1/20 of a second.

How much force do the brakes exert to stop the elevator like this? Why isn't the answer 700 lbs? Isn't the force of gravity only 700 lbs?


I'm not sure where to begin with this one, I understand the concept of the elevator is being held taut by the elevator cord, and that on the sides, there is Ff (f=friction), but I am not really sure what to do with the information being given to me in this problem. Could someone give me a general idea how I should attempt this problem? Thanks in advance.
 
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The elevator will be moving downwards, and it will have a weight of 700 lbs, so the problem states when the elevator has a speed of 40 mph, then it can stop it, reach a speed of 0 in 1/20 of a second. (Acceleration Equation is ?)

The answer is not 700 lbs, because the elevator is moving.

Do a freebody diagram, the brake is supposedly air-brake, so i doubt there will be friction on the sides.
 
ok, I somewhat understand the problem a little better, but I did something wrong...

a=g=9.8 since acceleration is constant? because the cable just snaps, so it's just gravity, and a can be set equal to

a=Force/mass

and mass is equal to weight/g which in this case, then 700 lbs/9.8 m/s^2 gives me 71.4285714286, so then, I times both sides by mass, and get

(9.8)(71.4285714286) = 700 N, so but that was already ruled out, what did I mess up?

I have another equation where F=(micro)N where (micro)=coefficient of friction and N=normal, but I don't have to coefficient of friction in this problem, so I can't really use that
 
Think about the brake.

You got the Force the brake will exert to stop the elevator from falling and you got the weight of the elevator, on your diagram, and their moving on the y-axis.
 
not really, I'm still lost on this problem... gah, so much work for just one problem... UGH.
 
Think about

[tex]\sum_{i=1}^{n} \vec{F}_{i} = \frac{d \vec{P}}{dt}[/tex]

[tex]\sum_{i=1}^{n} \vec{F}_{i} = \frac{\Delta \vec{P}}{\Delta t}[/tex]

[tex]\sum_{i=1}^{n} \vec{F}_{i} = \frac{m \Delta \vec{v}}{\Delta t}[/tex]

By the way that's Newton second law, and P is lineal momentum.

[tex]\sum_{i=1}^{n} \vec{F}_{i} = \frac{d \vec{P}}{dt}[/tex]

If the mass is constant, then it'll be:

[tex]\sum_{i=1}^{n} \vec{F}_{i} = \frac{m d \vec{v}}{dt}[/tex]

[tex]\sum_{i=1}^{n} \vec{F}_{i} = m \vec{a}[/tex]
 
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