Max and Min Applied Force for Stationary Block on Inclined Plane

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The problem involves a 2kg block on a 30-degree incline with a coefficient of static friction of 0.5. The objective is to determine the maximum and minimum applied forces at 30 degrees to the plane that will keep the block stationary.

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  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the block, including gravity, applied force, and static friction. There are questions about the role of static friction in the force balance equation and how to determine the maximum and minimum values of the applied force.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the problem, with participants questioning the assumptions about friction and the normal force. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between applied force and static friction, but there is no explicit consensus on the approach to take.

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Participants note the need to consider the varying effects of the applied force and static friction, as well as the implications of different slipping tendencies of the block. There is also a mention of specific numerical values for the forces, but their validity remains uncertain.

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The problem is:

We have a 2kg block on a 30 degree incline, with the coefficient of static friction= 0.5. I am supposed to determine the maximum and minimum values of an applied force at 30 degrees to the plane that will keep the block stationary.

My positive x direction is down the ramp.

I have tried to sum the forces in the x direction as follows,

x component of gravity - x component of applied force - friction = 0

I am not sure if friction should be here in this form, considering that
Force of static friction < μs (Normal force)

Any help?

Bosco
 
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I do not understand why it shouldn't be, use the gravity to calculate the normal force and then you can calculate the friction.
 
I do not know how to get the two different forces- maximum and minimum though.
 
The strength of the static friction force is whatever it needs to be to prevent sliding... up to a maximum strength, given by mu*N.

As you apply your external force, the required static friction force varies.
Additionally, if your external force has a component perpendicular to the incline, the normal force will vary (and hence the maximum friction force will vary).
 
great but how do i go about solving this problem now
 
Well looking at the very statement of the problem, you should reason that since there are two different kinds of forces (maximum and minimum) the effects they produce are different, perhaps with regard to the different slipping tendencies of the block :-).
 
my answers were: force min = 1.18N and force max = 29.6 N

can anyone tell me if this is right/reasonable?
 
What have you done?
 

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