Normal electron configuration Ethyne

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the representation of the electron configuration of ethyne (C2H2), specifically focusing on how to depict the triple bond between the carbon atoms and the associated electron sharing with hydrogen atoms. The scope includes conceptual understanding and representation in chemical notation.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that a triple bond can be represented as C:::C, indicating three pairs of shared electrons.
  • Others argue that the representation of bonds can vary, and the essential aspect is that the representation conveys the correct bonding information.
  • A participant mentions that the valency of carbon is 4, leading to a total of 10 electrons for two carbon atoms and two hydrogen atoms, suggesting that the structure should ensure octets for carbon and a duet for hydrogen.
  • Another participant provides various representations of bonds, including single, double, and triple bonds, using different notations.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the correct representation among the provided options, with differing opinions on which depiction accurately reflects the bonding in ethyne.
  • A later reply emphasizes the importance of understanding the underlying principles of bonding rather than just the representation itself.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct representation of the electron configuration for ethyne. Multiple competing views and representations are presented, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the clarity of the representations provided and the assumptions about the audience's familiarity with chemical notation. The discussion also reflects varying interpretations of how to depict chemical bonds.

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This is a multiple choice question with the shown triple bond between the two carbons:

I've narrowed it down to 2 diagrams
a) ..
C :: C


b) C : : : C

is it a). Please tell me if it's right. Thanks
 
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If the question you're asking is whether a triple bond is indicated with 2 columns of 3 electrons each or 3 columns of 2 electrons each, then the answer is b.
Single bond- C:C; double bond- C::C; triple bond- C:::C
 
t!m said:
If the question you're asking is whether a triple bond is indicated with 2 columns of 3 electrons each or 3 columns of 2 electrons each, then the answer is b.
Single bond- C:C; double bond- C::C; triple bond- C:::C

I'm not too sure about that. How are you judging the answer by? I'll give out all the choices now;

a) H:C::C:H
____. ._. .
b) H:C : C :H

(the period represents one electron)
c) H.C:::C.H
_____ ..
d) H:C::C:H

____.__.
e)H:C: C: H
____'__'

According to t!m the answer is c), but that wouldn't make any sense for the electrons shared by the hydrogens and carbons. i think the answer is d)
 
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Ethyne has the chemical formula

[tex]H-C\equiv C-H[/tex]
,where the triple bond assumes 3 pairs of electrons (6 electrons in total)shared by the 2 C atoms.Three chemical bonds:one sigma and 2 pi.Hybridization of the C atom:sp.

Daniel.
 
Remember valency of carbon is 4.So two C atoms and 2H atoms have 2*4 + 2*1=10 electrons.try to arrange them so that all except H is surrounded by 8 and H by 2.
So the answer is H:C:::C:H
 
A single bond is shown as:
[tex]Cl\begin{array}{cc}+\\\times\end{array} Cl[/tex] but with the other electrons around the Chlorine atoms.

A double bond is shown as:
[tex]O\begin{array}{cc}+\\\times\\+\\\times\end{array} O[/tex] but with the other electrons around the Oxygen atoms.

A triple bond is shown as:
[tex]H\begin{array}{cc}+\\\times\end{array} C\begin{array}{cc}+\\\times\\+\\\times\\+\\\times\end{array} C\begin{array}{cc}+\\\times\end{array} H[/tex]

The Bob (2004 ©)
 
poolwin2001 said:
Remember valency of carbon is 4.So two C atoms and 2H atoms have 2*4 + 2*1=10 electrons.try to arrange them so that all except H is surrounded by 8 and H by 2.
So the answer is H:C:::C:H

There's not even a choice like that... look carefully... I think agree with the Bob..
 
This is merely a question of representation. What everyone's trying to say, is that the C atoms in ethyne are bonded to each other by a triple bond. How you represent this triple bond doesn't matter terribly, as long as the other person knows what you mean. The standard representation, however, would be either what Dexter has used (common for designating organic compounds) or what The Bob has used (known as Lewis Dot Structures, these are used specifically when solving problems on electronic configurations).

The important thing to learn here, however, is what poolwin has mentioned : that the triple (covalent) bond is the only structure that ensures an octet for C and a duet for the H atom. So, while the representation of the structure is useful for effective communication, understanding the 'why' of the structure is more important.
 

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