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mathscience Feb19-12 09:33 PM

Science in Context
 
I've been thinking about the concept of clarity as it applies to science.

A white object is most clearly seen with a black background or context.

So how does that principle apply to science? In other words, with what context should we view science so we can see it most clearly?

Theoretically, going by the white-black principle, science should be seen in the context most opposite from it, so it can be seen the most clearly.

I'm sure there are many answers to this question.

Pengwuino Feb19-12 09:39 PM

Re: Science in Context
 
I think this post needs more context to make any sense :)

WannabeNewton Feb19-12 09:42 PM

Re: Science in Context
 
Can you give an example?

micromass Feb19-12 09:44 PM

Re: Science in Context
 
You're taking the metaphor way too far. But I'm waiting for the reasons why you made this post.

What do you think science is missing??

OmCheeto Feb19-12 09:46 PM

Re: Science in Context
 
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Quote by mathscience (Post 3773317)
I've been thinking about the concept of clarity as it applies to science.

A white object is most clearly seen with a black background or context.

So how does that principle apply to science? In other words, with what context should we view science so we can see it most clearly?

Theoretically, going by the white-black principle, science should be seen in the context most opposite from it, so it can be seen the most clearly.

I'm sure there are many answers to this question.

You are absolutely correct. I once photographed a white bird in the snow, and all you could see was a beady little eye.

http://home.europa.com/~garry/pf_xmas_dove.jpg

Contrast!

mathscience Feb19-12 09:51 PM

Re: Science in Context
 
Maybe politics. The global warming debate (banned on here) uses science in a political context. One could contend that politics isn't rational, so it stands in stark contrast to science.

micromass Feb19-12 09:52 PM

Re: Science in Context
 
But what are you proposing?? Isn't science good how it is now??

WannabeNewton Feb19-12 09:52 PM

Re: Science in Context
 
That seems pretty limited. What if you are talking about theoretical physics...what would you "contrast it with"...

Evo Feb19-12 09:53 PM

Re: Science in Context
 
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Quote by mathscience (Post 3773317)
Theoretically, going by the white-black principle, science should be seen in the context most opposite from it, so it can be seen the most clearly.

Explain what you mean by this.

mathscience Feb19-12 09:57 PM

Re: Science in Context
 
Think of it in terms of Newton's principle. Equal and opposite. We must theoretically create an "anti-science" that is equal and opposite to the science were are thinking about. Just like you can't see something white if the background is also white.

micromass Feb19-12 09:59 PM

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Quote by mathscience (Post 3773359)
Think of it in terms of Newton's principle. Equal and opposite. We must theoretically create an "anti-science" that is equal and opposite to the science were are thinking about. Just like you can't see something white if the background is also white.

And what must that anti-science consist of?? What do you propose??

WannabeNewton Feb19-12 10:00 PM

Re: Science in Context
 
So for some physical theory you want a respective theory that makes all the wrong predictions and fails to represent reality?

DaveC426913 Feb19-12 10:02 PM

Re: Science in Context
 
The opposite is religion.

Science is about knowing based on facts.
Religion is about knowing in the absence of facts (AKA faith).

micromass Feb19-12 10:02 PM

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Quote by WannabeNewton (Post 3773364)
So for some physical theory you want a respective theory that makes all the wrong predictions and fails to represent reality?

No, he wants science books consisting of anti-particles.

WannabeNewton Feb19-12 10:03 PM

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Quote by micromass (Post 3773366)
No, he wants science books consisting of anti-particles.

Sounds dangerous.

mathscience Feb19-12 10:03 PM

Re: Science in Context
 
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Quote by WannabeNewton (Post 3773364)
So for some physical theory you want a respective theory that makes all the wrong predictions and fails to represent reality?

Kind of that, that is if it can be isolated and put into model form.

micromass Feb19-12 10:05 PM

Re: Science in Context
 
Enough.


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