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Gurinder R Mar7-12 05:26 PM

Physics Project
 
Hello, I am in Grade 12 physics class and I have been given a open ended project; where we are required to build/create a machine which would involve at least 6 of the physics concepts:

ramps, pulleys, levers, transfer of momentum/energy, projectile motion, circular motion, stored elastic energy in a spring or like, harmonic motion, pendulums, impulse, inelastic or elastic
collisions, electricity, magnetism, light, photocells.

We can talk to our teacher and add anything else if it follows grade 12 curriculum.

Unit 1 Kinematics
Unit 2 Dynamics
Unit 3 WEM
Unit 4 GEM fields
Unit 5 Modern Physics
Unit 5 Light

I was first thinking of a rube goldberg machine but it would be too time consuming and hard to setup... as anyone in the class should be able to perform the machine.

Drakkith Mar7-12 05:38 PM

Re: Physics Project
 
Just keep it simple is my best suggestion. It could be as simple as setting up a ball to roll down a ramp into another ball. You can add things like levers or pulleys or whatever to release the ball. What do you WANT to build? This is your project after all.

Gurinder R Mar7-12 05:42 PM

Re: Physics Project
 
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Quote by Drakkith (Post 3803793)
Just keep it simple is my best suggestion. It could be as simple as setting up a ball to roll down a ramp into another ball. You can add things like levers or pulleys or whatever to release the ball. What do you WANT to build? This is your project after all.

well i was thinking of building a catapult but that is just transfer of energy. projectile and levers.

Delta Kilo Mar7-12 05:45 PM

Re: Physics Project
 
pulley - circular motion - stored elastic energy in a spring or like - lever - transfer of momentum/energy - projectile motion - inelastic or elastic collision ... hmm reminds me of something :)

Drakkith Mar7-12 05:47 PM

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Quote by Gurinder R (Post 3803797)
well i was thinking of building a catapult but that is just transfer of energy. projectile and levers.

Are you sure? I see at least 1-2 more physics concepts from your list that can apply. What will cause the catapult to launch?

Gurinder R Mar7-12 05:47 PM

Re: Physics Project
 
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Quote by Delta Kilo (Post 3803802)
pulley - circular motion - stored elastic energy in a spring or like - lever - transfer of momentum/energy - projectile motion - inelastic or elastic collision ... hmm reminds me of something :)

hmm...?

Gurinder R Mar7-12 05:48 PM

Re: Physics Project
 
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Quote by Drakkith (Post 3803805)
Are you sure? I see at least 1-2 more physics concepts from your list that can apply. What will cause the catapult to launch?

a lever would launch the catapult, i was thinking maybe i can pull the lever by using a pulley and a mass?

Drakkith Mar7-12 05:53 PM

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Quote by Gurinder R (Post 3803808)
a lever would launch the catapult, i was thinking maybe i can pull the lever by using a pulley and a mass?

Sure, that is an option. Can you think of anything to add to the catapult that would be one of the other physics concepts?

Gurinder R Mar7-12 05:57 PM

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Quote by Drakkith (Post 3803824)
Sure, that is an option. Can you think of anything to add to the catapult that would be one of the other physics concepts?

a spring?

alienprophecy Mar7-12 06:29 PM

Re: Physics Project
 
I think your first idea was a good one--a Rube Goldberg device doesn't necessarily have to be huge or complicated, and it has the added bonus of allowing you to demonstrate each of those principles separately.

For instance, you could start off with a miniature car on a track that begins a couple of feet above the table. You could start it moving forward with a spring-loaded mechanism (like a pinball plunger), then have it twirl downward along the track. Then you could have it crash into something, perhaps roll into a bay at the end which puts it back at the top again via a lift. That would easily cover the requirements.

Sounds like fun, actually :)

Gurinder R Mar7-12 06:34 PM

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Quote by alienprophecy (Post 3803885)
I think your first idea was a good one--a Rube Goldberg device doesn't necessarily have to be huge or complicated, and it has the added bonus of allowing you to demonstrate each of those principles separately.

For instance, you could start off with a miniature car on a track that begins a couple of feet above the table. You could start it moving forward with a spring-loaded mechanism (like a pinball plunger), then have it twirl downward along the track. Then you could have it crash into something, perhaps roll into a bay at the end which puts it back at the top again via a lift. That would easily cover the requirements.

Sounds like fun, actually :)

what type of concepts would it implement?

I can see springs, ramps, circular motion, pulleys, transfer of energy...

Drakkith Mar7-12 06:48 PM

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Quote by Gurinder R (Post 3803831)
a spring?

Sure, you could use a spring. I'd say you pretty much have most of your project's concepts figured out. If you can add another concept to it then you'll be good.

alienprophecy Mar7-12 07:53 PM

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Quote by Gurinder R (Post 3803893)
what type of concepts would it implement?

I can see springs, ramps, circular motion, pulleys, transfer of energy...

From what I wrote, that is a pretty good inventory. Getting one or two more in there wouldn't be too much of a problem--for instance, you could use a latch to hold back the pinball plunger/spring device that launches the car, then lift it with a lever. Lighting tricks would be easy--maybe you could have the track go partially under a body of water, to show refraction. There are tons of ideas--about half of your project is how you present it, because you could turn in a stick and argue for a bunch of the forces already (light, electrical forces holding the stick together, the earth rotating through space, etc.)

Gurinder R Mar7-12 09:13 PM

Re: Physics Project
 
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Quote by alienprophecy (Post 3804002)
From what I wrote, that is a pretty good inventory. Getting one or two more in there wouldn't be too much of a problem--for instance, you could use a latch to hold back the pinball plunger/spring device that launches the car, then lift it with a lever. Lighting tricks would be easy--maybe you could have the track go partially under a body of water, to show refraction. There are tons of ideas--about half of your project is how you present it, because you could turn in a stick and argue for a bunch of the forces already (light, electrical forces holding the stick together, the earth rotating through space, etc.)

i was just wondering umm would the car have enough energy to hit the lever so the pulley can operate with the electric motor...?

Gurinder R Mar8-12 05:51 PM

Re: Physics Project
 
I have attached a preliminary sketch of the project but my questions is would the electromagnet be able to attract the metal ball in motion?

http://i43.tinypic.com/2q0ugqr.png

This would include:

Springs
Ramps
Circular Motion
Light (Refraction)
Projectile
Electricity
Magnetism
Forces
Transfer of Energy

Gurinder R Mar23-12 05:28 PM

Re: Physics Project
 
I wanted to know if copper wire is the best for coil and for a core wire hangers.

9v would be sufficient?


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