How Do You Calculate Horizontal Force and Tension in Physics Problems?

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The discussion revolves around calculating horizontal force and tension in physics problems involving a block on an incline and a bird on a telephone wire. The subject area includes mechanics, specifically forces, tension, and equilibrium conditions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss resolving force vectors into components and applying Newton's laws. There are suggestions to draw diagrams for better understanding. Some participants provide equations related to the problems, while others express uncertainty about specific variables such as acceleration and coefficients of friction.

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There is an active exchange of ideas with some participants offering equations and methods for approaching the problems. However, there is no explicit consensus on the best approach, and multiple interpretations are being explored.

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Participants note that the original poster has not covered these topics in class and is working from a different textbook, which may contribute to the confusion. Additionally, a coefficient of friction is mentioned, which may affect the calculations but is not fully integrated into the discussion.

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Q1. A 3.87 kg block is held in equilibrium on an incline by the horizontal force F. The incline makes a 23.6 degree angle with the horizontal. Determine the magnitude of F. Answer in units of N.

Q2. The distance between two telephone poles is 48 m. When a 1.36 kg bird lands on the telephone wire midway between the poles, the wire sags 0.118 m. how much tension in the wire does the bird produce? Ignore the weight of the wire. Answer in units of N.

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We haven't covered these topic yet in my class, and there's not much in the book that is helping me since the homework assignment is based on a different book that the prof used last year. If you guys could give me some directions as to how to go about solving these questions - if I get these, I'm sure I'll get most of the Qs - if not all.
 
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1. Are you familiar with the idea of resolving force vectors into perpendicular components? If so, do it and apply Newton's first law in different directions. If not, ask. It is vital.

2. This is similar too. Draw a good diagram and you'll see. (Assume the cable itself to lie in straight lines...)
 
I agree with FZ+. But for your answers:

1)
mgsinA=FcosA
3.87(9.81)tan(23.6) = F
F = 16.6N

2)
TSinA = W/2

A = atan(0.118/24)

T = 1357N
 
Oops...I forgot to mention that the coefficient is 0.261
Ah...I'll just attach the question lol...The figures will help, am sure.
I was thinking that maybe I could use Fx = macosA but then I don't know the acceleration...or maybe mg? Gravity being 9.8 m/s^2
 
I am not sure if it attached the file earlier...hmmmm
 
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Resolve parallel to the inclined surface.

FCosA = mgSinA + umgCosA

where u = coefficient of friction, m = mass, g = gravity, A = slope angle.
 
Condition of equilibrium:

Nsin([alpha])=F,
N=mgcos([alpha])+Fsin([alpha]),
mg=Ncos([alpha])
 

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