Petals Around the Rose: Solve the Puzzle and Enjoy!

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The discussion revolves around the puzzle "Petals Around the Rose," focusing on how to solve it and the experiences of participants in attempting to understand the underlying logic. The conversation includes various approaches to the puzzle, reflections on the solving process, and differing opinions on the relationship between intelligence and the time taken to solve it.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose a method of counting "petals" based on the numbers on the dice, suggesting specific values for each die face.
  • Others argue that the name of the game hints at a simpler solution, emphasizing the need to think about the visual representation of the dice.
  • A participant mentions that the puzzle's design implies that the longer it takes to solve, the smarter one is, which they find questionable.
  • Some participants share their personal experiences with the puzzle, noting varying times taken to solve it and the frustration of overthinking the problem.
  • One participant suggests a potential flaw in the puzzle's wording regarding the definition of "petals around the rose."
  • Another participant humorously reflects on their experience of getting stuck on a different puzzle, indicating the challenge of such brain teasers.
  • Several participants express that once they understood the solution, they felt it was straightforward, contrasting their initial struggles.

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Participants express a range of experiences and opinions regarding the puzzle, with no clear consensus on the relationship between intelligence and solving time, and differing views on the puzzle's wording and logic. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of the puzzle's design and the nature of its solution.

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Some participants mention specific assumptions about the puzzle's mechanics and the definitions of terms used, which may not be universally agreed upon. The discussion reflects a variety of interpretations and approaches to the puzzle without resolving these differences.

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http://crux.baker.edu/cdavis09/roses.html

This puzzle was brought to my attention. I currently have no idea how on Earth to figure it out, so don't ask for any help. Enjoy!
 
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Ok I think I got it:

Add the die up this way

1 = 0
2 = 0
3 = 2
4 = 0
5 = 4
6 = 0

so that:

5 5 5 5 5 = 4+4+4+4+4=20
1 6 5 3 4 = 0+0+4+2+0 = 6
1 1 1 1 1 = 0+0+0+0+0 = 0
4 6 6 6 2 = 0+0+0+0+0 = 0
4 3 6 2 3 = 0+2+0+0+2 = 4
 
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I found this game a while ago, it took me a little while to get, but read the white part for a way to figure it out...

just think about the name of the game... petals around the rose... what do dice have to do with petals on a rose? more specifically, are there any numbers on a die that look like they could be petals on a rose? and if so, how many petals are on each of these?
 
I figured this thing out the first time I clicked "check."
 
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Supposedly, the longer the puzzle takes you the smarter you are supposed to be, which is complete BS I think..
 
It had taken Dr. Duke well over a year himself, and he would always explain that the smarter you were, the longer it took to figure it out.

:-p :-p
 
lol, I agreed with that longer it takes you thing at the start, but after solving it in about 20mins I thought it was bs too :smile:
 
Ok I figured it out thanks to that hint by msmith12. However, the question defines "pedals around THE rose", and not "total pedals around the roses". Therefore it is flawed.
 
Once you figure it out you think how stupid you must be not to have seen it before. I was trying out all sorts of mathematical ways of solving it when all you have to do is just look at it to solve it :smile:
 
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That is a little odd, icebreaker, but perhaps each of the dice counts the number of petals of a particular color, so die 1 (if it has a rose shape on it) shows only red petals, die 2 shows only a certain shade of pink petals, etc. down to die 5 which shows only white petals.
 
  • #11
well, i was able to sole it immidiately, but that was bcoz that i had already solved this before. actually i had tried to solve it but failed, then i had posted it right here in the brain teasers section and got the answer.





and from that i conclude that whenever you are not able to solve any problem, just post it here!
 
  • #12
Hahahahaha. I can't do it because my little sister already played it with me. I got stuck up on Genghis Khan and it took me about an hour. :smile:

It might be easier on the website because of the way it looks when you first enter (I'm trying my hardest not to give too much away)
 
  • #13
I first found a way that seemd to work almost instantly! just multiply the number of dots in the middle by 2! It worked the first 4 times I tryed it... After that I was no where neer the right aswer... I was quite annoyed till I figured it out =-) took about 5 min.
 
  • #14
Took me about an hour the first time I found this. :)

PL
 
  • #15
Got it the first time. I attribute my ability to do this so quickly to NOT having the higher education many of you do.
 
  • #16
Took me about 30 minutes. I was writing down the numbers and calculating things until I re-read the paragraph below it, then I got it immediately.
 
  • #17
The "Background" paragraph tells you it's something simple (and hints that you shouldn't think like a "smart" person (which worked for me :rolleyes: )). I was able to solve it almost immediately, after two rounds. Maybe I got a lucky combination of numbers. Here they are- the correct number of petals is bolded:
6, 5, 3, 4, 4, 6
6, 3, 6, 1, 3, 4
 
  • #18
^ What really gave it away for me was 4 or 5 straight sets of having no 3s or 5s and getting 0 every time.
 

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