What Are the Best High Expansion Materials for Art Projects?

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The discussion revolves around identifying materials that exhibit significant thermal or moisture-induced expansion (10% to 20%) for use in art projects, particularly in the context of creating molds and scaling up original objects while maintaining their shape. Participants explore various material properties and applications, including the potential for repeatability and dimensional stability.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks materials that can expand significantly (10% to 20%) at room temperature while retaining shape, noting a preference for materials that can be molded.
  • Another participant asks for clarification on the application, questioning whether the expansion needs to be repeatable and if it must occur due to temperature changes.
  • Some participants suggest porous materials or polymers that may expand with moisture, although there is uncertainty about whether they can achieve the desired expansion percentage.
  • Foam insulation is proposed as a potential material, but concerns are raised about the relevance of expansion if a mold is being used.
  • One participant questions the need for expansion, suggesting that creating a mold to the desired final size might be a simpler solution, emphasizing potential issues with dimensional stability.
  • Another participant echoes this sentiment, questioning the rationale behind seeking a 20% increase in size and expressing skepticism about achieving dimensional similarity between original and scaled parts.
  • A participant shares their experience with clay and ceramics, noting that these materials typically shrink 10% to 20%, and discusses the possibility of using expansion to create molds for larger objects, even if some distortion occurs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity and feasibility of achieving significant expansion in materials for art projects. While some propose alternative approaches to achieve the desired outcomes, there is no consensus on the best material or method to use.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight various assumptions regarding the properties of materials and the implications of dimensional stability, but these aspects remain unresolved within the discussion.

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Processes like thermal expansion produce very slight expansion/contraction. I am looking for a material/process that expands significantly, say 10% to 20%, in the room temperature range while maintaining its' shape. I know some materials expand significantly when wet, but don't know any numbers or where to locate such data. It would be bonus if the material could be put in a mold. I am doing an art project and would like to scale up some of the elements I am using.
 
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What kind of material?

Tell us some more about your application and we might be able to give you some pointers. Does this expansion have to be repeatable? Does it have to be with temperature changes?
 
Aren't there some porous materials that would suit this kind of purpose pretty good, you could do the expansion with moisture (then again I could be completely wrong)? With respect to temperature (and probably moisture as well) some polymers do expand quite a bit but don't think (know) if they can go as high as 10-20% ...
 
Foam insulation, but it would need a mold.
 
Artman said:
Foam insulation, but it would need a mold.

But foams of course, actually if you can put it in a mold how is the expansion relevant ... or if want to use just a single mold and expand it up from there.
 
Use of the material

I would like to make a mold of an object, put the material into the mold, then do something to make the newly molded object expand to a size greater than the original while retaining the original shape.
 
This may be a silly question, but why not just make the mold the size you would like to end up with? There's no way you are going to get any kind of dimensional stability or similarity between the original and scaled parts by the way you are thinking.

What, EXACTLY, is it that you are doing?
 
FredGarvin said:
This may be a silly question, but why not just make the mold the size you would like to end up with?
I second this sentiment. Why all this trouble for a paltry 20% increase in size ?
There's no way you are going to get any kind of dimensional stability or similarity between the original and scaled parts by the way you are thinking
I tend to think so too, but this depends on your tolerances.
 
why 10%-20%

There are two possibilities I have in mind. When I make molds and then fill them with clay/ceramics the piece shrinks 10 to 20 percent. I would like to make a mold of the expanded piece so that when I make a ceramic object from it I can get something that was the original size. A second use I would have is that if I can get expansion significantly greater than 20% I could use this to make molds of objects that were scaled up significantly larger than the original. I think I might be able to offset the 'dimensional instability' by not casting solid. If there were a high degree of dimensional instability, that might be OK too. I might not mind if the objects were distorted as long as they were visually interesting.
 

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