Recrystallization: Melting & Boiling Points

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the importance of the relationship between the melting point of a solute and the boiling point of a solvent in the context of recrystallization. Participants explore the rationale behind these temperature conditions and their implications for the recrystallization process.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why the melting point of a solute should not exceed the boiling point of the solvent during recrystallization.
  • Another participant suggests that the phase transition from liquid to solid to gas occurs when decreasing temperature, implying a misunderstanding of the process.
  • A different participant asserts that the boiling point of the solvent must be lower than the melting point of the solute at the same pressure for effective recrystallization.
  • One participant acknowledges a previous misunderstanding and seeks further clarification on the reasoning behind the temperature relationship.
  • Another participant posits that if the boiling point of the solvent is higher than the melting point of the solute, the solute would dissolve completely in the solvent, complicating the isolation process.
  • A participant reiterates that recrystallization requires the solvent to boil, emphasizing that the boiling point of the solvent must be lower than the melting point of the solute to maintain the solid state of the solute.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between the melting point of the solute and the boiling point of the solvent, indicating a lack of consensus on the correct conditions for recrystallization.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference specific conditions such as pressure, which may affect the boiling and melting points, but these assumptions are not fully explored or resolved in the discussion.

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does anyone know why it is important to have the melting point of a solute not be higher than the boiling point of the solvent during recrystallization? --having a little trouble rationalizing this.
 
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Is this not because the pattern will be from a liquid a solid and then to a gas if you decrease the temperature?

The Bob (2004 ©)
 
Are u sure you're asking a right thing...?I mean according to me,it should be the other way around.The solvent (water,e.g.) must have the boiling point temp.less than solute's melting point,AT THE SAME PRESSURE...

Daniel.
 
Ok, you're right dextercioby. I had it the other way around. Oops! But I still am not clear on the reasoning. Here is the website I read it from:
http://www.ux1.eiu.edu/%7Ecfthb/classes/2445/2003/Quiz2key.htm
 
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I only assumed that if the bp of the solvent was higher thanthe mp of the solute than the compound you're trying to isolate will have already melted and mixed completely with the solvent.
 
Nope,recrystallization of a solution means:
boiling of the solvent------------->recrystallization of the solute.
Since you want the solute to be solid (that means "recrystallization"),you need to boil the solvent.Ergo,its boiling point < the melting point of the solute (at the same pressure);

Daniel.
 

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