The completeness of Hilbert Space

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The discussion revolves around the completeness of Hilbert spaces, focusing on definitions, properties, and examples. Participants explore the implications of completeness in the context of inner product spaces and related theorems, particularly the Riesz-Fischer theorem.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests guidance on proving that Hilbert space is complete, indicating it is a topic of interest for their paper.
  • Another participant points out that a Hilbert space is often defined as a complete inner product space, suggesting that completeness is inherent in the definition rather than something to be proven.
  • A different viewpoint describes Hilbert spaces as Banach spaces with an inner product, emphasizing that completeness is a property of Banach spaces.
  • Participants mention examples of Hilbert spaces, such as L^2 and l^2, and reference the Riesz-Fischer theorem as a source for understanding completeness in these contexts.
  • There is a query about the availability of Royden's Real Analysis book online, which is suggested as a resource for proofs related to completeness.
  • Another participant expresses doubt about the availability of the proof in Rudin's book, indicating uncertainty about where to find the relevant material.
  • A participant provides a definition of a complete function space and elaborates on the Riesz-Fischer theorem, explaining how it establishes the completeness of square-integrable functions.
  • There is a request for clarification on the explanation of the Riesz-Fischer theorem, indicating a desire for precision in the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit a mix of agreement and disagreement. While some assert that completeness is inherent to the definition of Hilbert spaces, others seek proofs and examples, suggesting that the discussion remains unresolved regarding the need for proof versus definition.

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Some participants rely on specific definitions and theorems, which may not be universally accepted or may depend on particular contexts. The discussion includes references to various texts, indicating a diversity of sources and interpretations.

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Can anyone guide me through or point me to a link of a proof that Hilbert space is complete? I am doing a paper on Hilbert space so I introduced some of its properties and now want to show it is complete.
 
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what is your,definition ,of hilbert space? i.e. sometimes one defines "a hilbert space" as a complete inner product space, so it then complete by definition, and then task is to produce some exampels.

the standard oens are all spaces of square integrable functions, so completeness would be found in any real analysis book, or functional analysis book.
 
A Hilbert space is just a Banach space with an inner product. A Banach space is by definition a complete normed vector space with the metric d(x,y) = ||x-y||

The spaces [tex]L^2[/tex] (the space of square-integrable functions) & [tex]l^2[/tex] (square-summable sequences) are examples of Hilbert spaces, and the [tex]L^p[/tex] spaces are complete by the Riesz-Fischer theorem. Have a look at p.125 of Royden's Real Analysis (what else?!) for the proof.
 
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Is Royden's real analysis on the web?
 
I doubt it.Does Rudin's book have it...?(The proof that [itex]L^{2}\left(\mathbb{R}\right)[/itex] and its complex counterpart are complete preHilbert spaces).

Daniel.
 
I don't know about that but I looked up Riesz-Fischer theorem & found that it was only mentioned twice (& not proved).
 
A complete function space is a function set in which no Cauchy sequence of functions in the set converge to limits which are not in the set.

The Riesz-Fischer Theorem identifies the set of "square integrable functions" as a complete function (inner-product) space (a Hilbert Space):

Riesz-Fischer Theorem:

Let the functions [itex]f_1(x),f_2(x),...[/itex] be elements in a function space. If:

[tex]\mathop\lim\limits_{m,n\to\infty}||f_n-f_m||^2\equiv\mathop\lim\limits_{m,n\to\infty}\int_a^b|f_n(x)-f_m(x)|^2dx=0[/tex]

then there exists a "square-integrable function" f(x) to which the sequence [itex]f_n(x)[/itex]converges such that:

[tex]\mathop\lim\limits_{n\to\infty}\int_a^b|f(x)-f_n(x)|^2 dx=0[/tex]

Edit: Thus all Cauchy sequences of square-integrable functions converge to functions which themselves are square-integrable. Makes sense right? If they converged to a function which was not square-integrable, then the set of square integrable functions would not be complete. You know . . . I'm pretty sure that's right. Correct me if it could be said differently.
 
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