Has there really been an increase in brain size

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The discussion revolves around whether there has been an increase in brain size throughout evolutionary history, particularly in humans and other mammals, as evidenced by fossil records. The scope includes theoretical considerations, measurements of brain size, and the implications of these measurements.

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  • Some participants assert that there is evidence for an increase in brain size, while others argue against this claim, indicating a lack of consensus.
  • One participant notes that measuring brain size is complex and can be done in various ways, including dimensions, volume, weight, cell number, or degree of folding, which complicates the interpretation of fossil records.
  • Another participant highlights that the fossil record provides limited information, as it relies on assumptions about how the brain filled the cranial cavity in extinct species compared to modern ones.
  • There is acknowledgment of the significant variation in brain sizes among living mammals, which raises questions about the relevance of fossil comparisons.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether there has been an increase in brain size, with multiple competing views and ongoing debate about the interpretation of fossil evidence and measurement methods.

Contextual Notes

The discussion is limited by the assumptions made regarding the fossil record and the various methods of measuring brain size, which may not fully capture the complexity of brain evolution.

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In the Earth's fossil record, some people say "yes" and some people say "no", not just in humans but mammals.
 
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Anybody?, a yes or no will do.

Thanks.
 
It's not quite that simple, which is why there's some debate about it. First, when we only have fossil records, we can only assume the brain filled the cranial cavity to the same extent it fills the cranial cavity of currently existing species. However, there is more than one way to measure brain size. You can measure the dimensions (length, width, circumference around a certain level), volume, weight, cell number, or degree of folding. So, we're limited when we only have a skull to measure as to just what the brain contained within it looked like.

Though, even among living mammals, there is still a huge variety of brain sizes, from tiny brains in mice and other small rodents, to larger brains in whales.
 
Thanks a lot...again, Moonbear
 

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