Effects of Rotation on Strain in a Disk

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the effects of rotation on strain in a hollow and solid disk assembly, particularly focusing on the implications of thermal expansion and the resulting mechanical stresses during operation. The scope includes concepts from mechanics of materials and design methodology in engineering applications.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that when a hollow disk is heated and a solid disk is inserted, the solid disk will be in compression while the hollow disk will be in tension.
  • Another participant describes the standard press fit scenario for rotating components, noting that the outer member expands more than the inner member during rotation, which could lead to loss of press fit if the speed is sufficient.
  • A question is raised about the branch of engineering relevant to such systems, indicating an interest in the engineering principles involved.
  • A later reply identifies the relevant fields as design methodology and mechanics of materials, mentioning the use of fit tables and stress analysis in engineering practice.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the mechanics of thermal expansion and the implications for strain in the disk assembly, but there are differing views on the effects of rotation and the potential for loss of press fit, indicating unresolved aspects of the discussion.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the specific outcomes of the strain under rotation, and assumptions regarding material properties and operational conditions are not fully articulated.

Who May Find This Useful

Engineers and students interested in mechanics of materials, design methodology, and applications involving rotating components may find this discussion relevant.

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If a hollow disk of say radius R is heated which causes it to expand a bit and a solid disk of radius slightly greater than R is fixed inside it after which both cool down, the solid disk will be in compression and the hollow disk in tension right?

Now if this disk is rotated at a some speed v, what will happen? Will the the compression and tension balance each other out or will the disk get even more strained?
 
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You've just described the standard press fit for a lot of rotating components like bearing inner races, labby seals, turbine and compressor discs, etc...

When you heat up the outer member and insert the inner, the result will be the inner member in compression and the outer in tension. When the assembly rotates, the result will be that the outer member will grow at a higher rate than the inner. At some point the speed will be enough to overcome the press fit and the two members will have no press fit any longer (and the assembly will come apart unless further restraint is provided, like a nut).
 
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Thank you.

What branch of engineering do such systems come under?
 
That is design methodology combined with mechanics of materials. Most designers will use fit tables or the like, they or others have developed for such applications. Stress analysts will some times have to look at the stresses induced to verify that the levels are appropriate for the environment and use.

In my company, we have devoted individuals that are responsible for things such as clamp groups and stress analysis of particular components. We work together quite often to make sure we don't miss anything when designs are being worked up.
 

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