Understanding Component Functions in a Common Source Amplifier

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The discussion revolves around the functions of various components in a common source amplifier, including capacitors, gate resistance, source resistance, and drain resistance. Participants also explore the implications of finite input impedance on amplifier response and seek guidance on designing a common source amplifier with specific gain requirements.

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  • Some participants explain that input and output capacitors are coupling capacitors that block DC voltage while allowing AC voltage to pass.
  • There is uncertainty regarding the role of gate resistance, with one participant suggesting it limits current to the gate of the JFET.
  • Source resistance is described as reducing circuit gain and distortion, but its necessity can be bypassed with a capacitor.
  • Drain resistance is proposed to limit maximum voltage gain, though its exact role is debated.
  • One participant raises a question about the effect of finite input impedance on amplifier response, noting it may impose limits on feedback circuit resistances.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of having a higher input impedance than source impedance to minimize distortion and ensure efficient signal transfer.
  • A new participant seeks assistance in designing a common source amplifier to achieve specific voltage gains and frequency response, asking for guidance on calculating bypass capacitor values.

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Participants express various viewpoints on the functions of components in the amplifier, with some aspects being agreed upon while others remain contested or unclear. The discussion on finite input impedance and its effects also shows differing levels of understanding and interpretation.

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Participants mention specific conditions and assumptions regarding the roles of resistors and capacitors, as well as the implications of impedance matching, which may not have been fully resolved in the discussion.

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This discussion may be useful for students and enthusiasts of electronics, particularly those interested in amplifier design and the functioning of common source amplifiers.

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Just out of interest guys have I got this right?

Function of certain components of a common source amplifier:

Capacitors at input and output: They are coupling capacitors and simply block the DC voltage, but allow the AC voltage through.

Gate Resistance: Is the purpose of this to limit the amount of current reaching the gate of the JFET??

Source resistance: This reduces the gain of the circuit, which thereby reduces distortion.

Drain resistance: Limits the maximum voltage gain?

I think that the source and capacitor explanations are right, but I'm not that sure about the Gate and Drain resistors.
 
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Soilwork said:
Just out of interest guys have I got this right?

Function of certain components of a common source amplifier:

Capacitors at input and output: They are coupling capacitors and simply block the DC voltage, but allow the AC voltage through.

Gate Resistance: Is the purpose of this to limit the amount of current reaching the gate of the JFET??

Source resistance: This reduces the gain of the circuit, which thereby reduces distortion.

Drain resistance: Limits the maximum voltage gain?

I think that the source and capacitor explanations are right, but I'm not that sure about the Gate and Drain resistors.

The Gate resistor provides a ground reference to the Gate. The source resistor provides a positive voltage to the source. The combination of those factors makes VGS < 0. This is a requirement for the functioning of the FET.
The source resistor really reduces the gain, but if this is undesirable you can bypass it with a large capacitor.
The drain resistor really is responsible for the gain. If your source resistor is not bypassed the gain is approximately [tex]A_V = \frac {R_D}{R_S}[/tex]. If it is bypassed the gain is approximately [tex]A_V = g_m R_D[/tex]
 
Cheers for that :)

Another question that I have been struggling finding an answer for is what effect a finite input impedance has on the response of an amplifier?

I mean I've been reading up on how to use op-amps and the differences between ideal and real, and can't find the reason for this one thing.
I did find somewhere that a finite input impedance puts an upper bound on the resistances in the feedback circuit...but how this effects the response of the amplifier I'm not sure.

Sorry for asking stupid questions, but I'm new at this :(
 
They're not stupid questions by any means. I'd suggest that you take a look at the following book -- it's a really great intro electronics book that will answer a lot of your questions. It's also the most practical intro electronics book that I've ever seen.

"The Art of Electronics" by Horowitz and Hill

 
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Soilwork said:
Cheers for that :)

Another question that I have been struggling finding an answer for is what effect a finite input impedance has on the response of an amplifier?

I mean I've been reading up on how to use op-amps and the differences between ideal and real, and can't find the reason for this one thing.
I did find somewhere that a finite input impedance puts an upper bound on the resistances in the feedback circuit...but how this effects the response of the amplifier I'm not sure.

Sorry for asking stupid questions, but I'm new at this :(
A finite input impedance will be part of the feedback circuit.
 
ahh k so it will change the amount of feedback in the circuit.
Cheers :)

Thanks for the book suggestion. I will probably order it next week.
 
Also, the input impedance should be much higher than the source impedance (internal impedance of the source). This not only guarantees that the voltage signal to be amplified is efficiently transferred in a useable form to the amplifier inputs, but also is critically important for lowering distortion of the waveform. It works by limiting the current draw from the source which can distort the voltage waveform and affect frequency response as well. If the current varies significantly in the input loop including the source of the signal, you begin to affect the signal you are trying to measure.

When discussing 'impedance matching' in amplifier stages (especially audio), what is meant is keeping the input impedance of the next stage high enough not to affect the circuit behaviour and signal of the preceding stage. For high frequency applications, stray capacitance from physical layout and stage coupling becomes a dominant issue.
 
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Rogue Physicist said:
Also, the input impedance should be much higher than the source impedance (internal impedance of the source). This not only guarantees that the voltage signal to be amplified is efficiently transferred in a useable form to the amplifier inputs, but also is critically important for lowering distortion of the waveform. It works by limiting the current draw from the source which can distort the voltage waveform and affect frequency response as well. If the current varies significantly in the input loop including the source of the signal, you begin to affect the signal you are trying to measure.

When discussing 'impedance matching' in amplifier stages (especially audio), what is meant is keeping the input impedance of the next stage high enough not to affect the circuit behaviour and signal of the preceding stage. For high frequency applications, stray capacitance from physical layout and stage coupling becomes a dominant issue.
I think you didn't understand clearly the post. Source here refers not to power source or signal source, but to the terminal of the FET called source.
 
Finding bypass capacitors in common source amplifier

Hi,
I am new to this website. I am having troubles in designing a common source amplifier with a voltage gain, Av=26 dB (no bypass capacitor) and a gain of 40 DB (with a bypass capacitor) and a frequency of 100-1000HZ. Can anyone please guide me to calculate the value of the bypass capacitor? I searched everywhere for the methods of finding the capacitors values but still in vain. :frown: :confused:
thank you very much for all your help.

thanks,
peace
 
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berkeman said:
They're not stupid questions by any means. I'd suggest that you take a look at the following book -- it's a really great intro electronics book that will answer a lot of your questions. It's also the most practical intro electronics book that I've ever seen.

"The Art of Electronics" by Horowitz and Hill



Hey I have that book! allthough i have not read it yet...
 
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peace_lp said:
Hi,
I am new to this website. I am having troubles in designing a common source amplifier with a voltage gain, Av=26 dB (no bypass capacitor) and a gain of 40 DB (with a bypass capacitor) and a frequency of 100-1000HZ. Can anyone please guide me to calculate the value of the bypass capacitor? I searched everywhere for the methods of finding the capacitors values but still in vain. :frown: :confused:
thank you very much for all your help.

thanks,
peace
Basically, the impedance of the bypass capacitor at the lowest operation frequency (100 Hz) should be much smaller than the resistance of the source resistor (generally 10 times smaller).
If you have the source resistor, you can calculate the capacitance.
 

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