DC Motor Speed Control - Ideas & Circuits

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around designing a speed control circuit for a 24V DC permanent magnet motor that can operate in both directions. Participants explore various circuit ideas and control methods, focusing on practical applications rather than theoretical concepts.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests looking into H-bridges for controlling the motor direction and speed.
  • Another participant emphasizes the complexity of the task without a reasonable knowledge of control systems, proposing the use of a tachometer and a power amplifier for feedback control.
  • A later reply discusses the simplicity of building an H-bridge with transistors and resistors, mentioning that a 555 timer could be used for PWM control.
  • Participants discuss the potential use of microcontrollers to simplify the design process.
  • The original poster clarifies that the motor will be used for a car park barrier, specifying the need for two speeds in both directions and the ability to hold position without precise control mechanisms like encoders or tachometers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the complexity of the control system required, with some advocating for simpler solutions while others suggest more sophisticated approaches. No consensus is reached on the best method for speed control.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully addressed the limitations of their proposed solutions, such as the specific requirements for current, size, and cost of the controller. There is also a lack of clarity on the exact specifications needed for the motor control in the context of the car park barrier application.

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dear members
i want to design speed control circuit for 24v dc permanat magnet motor in both direction if anyone have ideas or circuits please post here. it may be great help to me. Thanx in advance
 
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Look into H-Bridges.
 
Unless you have a reasonable knowledge of control systems, this is difficult task. Basically you should install a tachometer in the output of the motor, compare the output of the tachometer with a reference voltage and feed the difference to a power amplifier which will drive the motor windings.
 
SGT said:
Unless you have a reasonable knowledge of control systems, this is difficult task. Basically you should install a tachometer in the output of the motor, compare the output of the tachometer with a reference voltage and feed the difference to a power amplifier which will drive the motor windings.

Wow, that's somewhat complex
:biggrin:

A simple H can be made with as few at 4 transistors and 4 resistors. A more reliable solution would use 6 or so. An optimal solution would use a few mosfets. You can use PWM (a 555 timer would actually work here) to control the speed. Controlling a motor is not that hard:

http://www.bobblick.com/techref/projects/hbridge/hbridge.html
http://www.mcmanis.com/chuck/robotics/tutorial/h-bridge/
http://www.dprg.org/tutorials/1998-04a/

You can make things more difficult if you want to or need to; however, microcontrollers do simplify the entire design process.

levoeg, what exactly do you need from your controller? Current requirement, means of control, size of controller, cost requirement, intended use...
 
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dear members
thanx for the posts here. actually i want to use this for car park barrier.the existing one having problem very often so i am trying to replace that with this circuit. the rest of the control circuit no prob for me i mean power source, sensors, and limit swtches etc.. i want the motor should run in two speeds in both direction and hold when the limit is reached(less power to ensure it is not free fall). here is no need of encoders or tachos as it doesn't need precise position control
 

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