Locus of Points in Complex Plane for Constant a: Q

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The discussion revolves around finding the loci of points in the complex plane that satisfy specific conditions involving the complex logarithm. The original poster presents two parts of the problem, both involving a real constant \( a \) and expressions for the real and imaginary parts of the logarithm of a quotient of complex numbers.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the potential to exponentiate both sides of the equations to simplify the problem. There is mention of needing to express the complex numbers in Cartesian form and separating into real and imaginary parts. Some participants express uncertainty about the geometric interpretation of the equations and the nature of the resulting loci.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the problem algebraically, suggesting the use of the definition of the complex logarithm. There is an acknowledgment that the loci may represent conic sections, specifically circles, but the discussion remains open with various interpretations being explored.

Contextual Notes

There are constraints regarding the values of \( k \) in the second part of the problem, which are noted to affect the interpretation of the radius of the resulting locus. Additionally, there is a discussion about the implications of certain limits and the conditions under which the loci may change from circles to other forms, such as vertical lines.

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Q. For the real constant a find the loci of all points z = x + yi in the complex plane that satisfy:

a) [tex]{\mathop{\rm Re}\nolimits} \left\{ {\log \left( {\frac{{z - ia}}{{z + ia}}} \right)} \right\} = c,c > 0[/tex]

b) [tex]{\mathop{\rm Im}\nolimits} \left\{ {\log \left( {\frac{{z - ia}}{{z + ia}}} \right)} \right\} = k,0 \le k \le \frac{\pi }{2}[/tex]

I have very little idea as to how to do these questions.

For each of them I've thought about first 'ignoring' the I am and Re to see where I could get. I thought, maybe exponentiate both sides but then I'm still left with a quotient of involving z, with the quotient being equal to the exponential of a positive number or an angle(depending on if I'm working on part a or b). There doesn't seem to be an easy way to do this question.

I get the feeling that perhaps these two require some sort of geometric interpretation but I can't really see anyway to interpret the equation. Can someone please help me get started on deducing what the locus of points for each question is?
 
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The complex logarithm has a specific definition involving a natural log and an argument angle. That is, it's slightly different then the one that you may be use to when dealing with just real numbers. Find this definition and start there.
 
Do you mean where log(z) = log|z| + iargz? I'll look it up again anyway, I recently used it. Thanks for the help.
 
Benny said:
Q. For the real constant a find the loci of all points z = x + yi in the complex plane that satisfy:

a) [tex]{\mathop{\rm Re}\nolimits} \left\{ {\log \left( {\frac{{z - ia}}{{z + ia}}} \right)} \right\} = c,c > 0[/tex]

b) [tex]{\mathop{\rm Im}\nolimits} \left\{ {\log \left( {\frac{{z - ia}}{{z + ia}}} \right)} \right\} = k,0 \le k \le \frac{\pi }{2}[/tex]

I have very little idea as to how to do these questions.

For each of them I've thought about first 'ignoring' the I am and Re to see where I could get. I thought, maybe exponentiate both sides but then I'm still left with a quotient of involving z, with the quotient being equal to the exponential of a positive number or an angle(depending on if I'm working on part a or b). There doesn't seem to be an easy way to do this question.

I get the feeling that perhaps these two require some sort of geometric interpretation but I can't really see anyway to interpret the equation. Can someone please help me get started on deducing what the locus of points for each question is?

There's no "easy" (meaning elegant, short) way to do this question that I know of, but you can slog through the algebra fairly directly.

Just express z = x + yi and arrange the numerator and denominator in Cartesian form. Then use the definition of log of a complex number (as you've already stated), and separate into real and imaginary parts.

Immediately, you'll find that both loci are obvious conic sections. On closer inspection, they're both circles. Find the center and radii in each case (if you need to visualise/sketch the locus), and you're golden. :smile:

The working is too long for me to reproduce (and I'm still feeling under the weather), but here are the answers I got :

Part a) (the Real part) :

[tex]x^2 - [y - a(\frac{1 + e^{2c}}{1 - e^{2c}})]^2 = 4a^2\frac{e^{2c}}{(1-e^{2c})^2}}[/tex]

Part b) (the Imaginary part) :

[tex]{(x + a\cot k)}^2 + y^2 = a^2\csc^2{k}[/tex]

Compare each of the above to the general circle [tex]{(x - A)}^2 + {(y - B)}^2 = R^2[/tex], which is centered at (A,B) and has radius R in order to see what the center and radius are in each case.
 
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Thanks for those answers Curious3141, I'll see what answer I can come up with. I haven't gotten around to trying to do it the long(ie. algebraic way) yet.

Edit: Looking at your second answer I'm not sure how to interpret the cosec(k) part because k takes on values between 0 and pi/2. So does that have any affect on the radius? I'm finding it a little difficult to comprehend a circle with a varying 'radius.' Dividing both sides by the RHS I would get an ellipse I think by then the smi-minor and semi-major axes would vary. :confused:
 
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Benny said:
Thanks for those answers Curious3141, I'll see what answer I can come up with. I haven't gotten around to trying to do it the long(ie. algebraic way) yet.

Edit: Looking at your second answer I'm not sure how to interpret the cosec(k) part because k takes on values between 0 and pi/2. So does that have any affect on the radius? I'm finding it a little difficult to comprehend a circle with a varying 'radius.' Dividing both sides by the RHS I would get an ellipse I think by then the smi-minor and semi-major axes would vary. :confused:

For a given case, k takes on a single value within a restricted range. It doesn't vary.

I should've specified that for k = 0 (and nonzero a), you don't get a circle (or any curve), just a straight vertical line at [itex]x = 0[/itex]. You can determine this by letting k tend to zero in my expression and seeing what happens. You'll need L'Hopital's Rule to reduce a limit. Personally, I feel the restriction should've been a half-closed interval (open at the lower limit), but it's no big deal.

BTW, a (non-circular) ellipse only results when the coefficients of [itex]x^2[/itex] and [itex]y^2[/itex] are different after you put the equation into a standard form. This is definitely a perfect circle for most values of k and all nonzero values of a.
 
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I think I see what you mean now, thanks again for the help.
 

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